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Dark Riddick
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id there such a thing as Tax evasion if there is no written law?




lets talk about the IRS and taxes, what about the treasury being privatize and not actually part of the american government.


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Just remember, taxes are voluntary.


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Would you want the Department of Treasury to behave more like the Federal Reserve? Or would you want the American people to have a more firmer control over it?


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I support tax evasion 100%.

I applaud people that hide their money in foreign banks and away from the corrupt hands of our government.


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are we all joking or being sarcastic? i cant tell.


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are we all joking or being sarcastic? i cant tell.


I was being sarcastic (but as stupid as it sounds, taxes are considered to be voluntary).


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I was being sarcastic (but as stupid as it sounds, taxes are considered to be voluntary).
i hear it is only optional/voluntary to fill out and mail ur tax info but it is not optional to have to pay it if audited.

but now i am really curious to find a law specifically stated that federal taxing is mandatory and also want to find another written law saying it is now legal to use ur social security number as mandatory identification number which from what i hear is illegal and was made clear it is not nor was it meant to be used in such a manner..


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I'm not sure if KidRock was serious or joking. I assume slightly serious?



Anyway, I will obey the laws to the best of my ability.

I'll pay my taxes. I have a hard time getting things perfect on my taxes, but I try my best to do them correctly.


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i wont lie if i was a millionaire i would have off shore accounts and find ways to not pay taxes.. i probably change citizenship to that of a Canadian, germany... i then would only come to the states to do a job as an outside contractor already paid prior to entering the country and performing the job.

like to see how that would work out..

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I'm not sure if KidRock was serious or joking. I assume slightly serious?



Anyway, I will obey the laws to the best of my ability.

I'll pay my taxes. I have a hard time getting things perfect on my taxes, but I try my best to do them correctly.


I just have an accountant do mine.


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Blame it on WWII, where the government made this tax. It was a coolie-O-thingie, that was to be ended when the war did. but did it???


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Originally posted by Wild Shadow
are we all joking or being sarcastic? i cant tell.


I was serious with my question up above.

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i wont lie if i was a millionaire i would have off shore accounts and find ways to not pay taxes.. i probably change citizenship to that of a Canadian, germany... i then would only come to the states to do a job as an outside contractor already paid prior to entering the country and performing the job.

like to see how that would work out..

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If you're good at that, you can get a job on Wall Street and actually make billions for other like-minded people and then pocket some of the commissions. If you can do that and not pull off a Bernie Madoff, you're scot free.


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i wont lie if i was a millionaire i would have off shore accounts and find ways to not pay taxes.. i probably change citizenship to that of a Canadian, germany... i then would only come to the states to do a job as an outside contractor already paid prior to entering the country and performing the job.

like to see how that would work out..

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nic cage as well


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by dadudemon
I'm not sure if KidRock was serious or joking. I assume slightly serious?



Anyway, I will obey the laws to the best of my ability.

I'll pay my taxes. I have a hard time getting things perfect on my taxes, but I try my best to do them correctly.


I am completely serious.

It's a citizens right in my eyes to do everything in their power to hide their money and avoid paying taxes that they feel are excessive.

I guess this number greatly differs from person to person.

But in my eyes if anyone is getting taxed more then a quarter (25%) of their entire income then they should do everything in their power to hide their money.

I even know of a guy here in Connecticut that specializes in pretty much either investing in things such as municipal bonds which are tax exempt...or even just hiding the money some how in offshore banks and corporations. He makes a living off lowering peoples taxes, it's awesome.


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we you so inclined when your money was being used to bomb children? or is it only now that it is going to help the sick that you have problems with American tax laws?


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we you so inclined when your money was being used to bomb children? or is it only now that it is going to help the sick that you have problems with American tax laws?



I'm a bit confused on what you're trying to say there, but I assume it is something derisive towards KR.





And, yeah, if you put it that way (the first way)...paying my taxes sound bad. sad


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lol, its just I don't remember this "real american patriots dont pay tax" stuff from KR when his taxes were being spent on wars, but now that they are spent on healthcare.....


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lol, its just I don't remember this "real american patriots dont pay tax" stuff from KR when his taxes were being spent on wars, but now that they are spent on healthcare.....



LOL

Okay.


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I don't get the logic of "the best way to support America is to remove its income". Sure you can support what you see as the ideal of America (which I gather is to give absolute power to the wealthy on the argument that everything the government has ever done is "initation of violence") but by not paying taxes you take a step toward removing America as an actual country, so why would you ever say you were an American?


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