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Random Scientific Questions

i bn thinking we need a thread where we can pose scientific questions that we can ponder and or answer.

Question One :

Can a heterosexual person be turned chemically gay along with help from outside factors?


an unaware test subject given high levels of estrogen and other female hormones... can it cause him to start to develop homosexual tendencies and or thoughts/behavior?

what if he were surrounded by homosexual people he can interact with maybe a adult video store access to erotica and other stimuli?

i ask b/c i am curious about how some scientist believe homosexuality occurs early in the fetus life cycle when it is bombarded with hormones from its mother... some believe the fetus may get too much estrogen and although it will be born a male it will develop feminine behavior making it more likely to be gay. (its just one of many theories, dont shoot the messenger).

another is about how one is raised some think it has to do with environment even to how much time a woman spends raising a child as a factor.(even possibly molestation).


i think if we can answer this it will get us one step closer to a real answer about a possible cause to homosexuality.


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Homosexuality is caused by the devil... That's all we need to know...


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but can it be chemically treated or deprogrammed out of a person?

of course it can be exorcised but you need a lvl 12 Holy priest with relics and charms.. you dont have them walking around every day so that leaves it up to science to do its best.


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I got an idea: lets ask a scientific question.

Do you support the idea that entropy is a reflection of the arrow of time? If not, please explain.

Like that...


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I don't believe it can be deprogrammed, as for chemical treatment I don't know... I certainly wouldn't like it to be tested.


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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I got an idea: lets ask a scientific question.

Do you support the idea that entropy is a reflection of the arrow of time? If not, please explain.

Like that...
yes, just like that.

no, i do not think entropy is a reflection of time. every thing is happening at once the mind is what gives it all a sense of order.

you might as well say the human life cycle is a reflection of time and memory is a window to the past as it is happening at the exact moment as the present and future the mind is what gives it order and purpose.

this is heavy, getting into quantum mechanics and metaphysics.

its just my two cents. to me time is a concept not really measureable nor understood. humans use it to to measure distance.

but, without us it has no meaning.


anyways,,, this sounds more like a philosphy question rather then an outright scientific one.. but, most quantum theory sh#$ is.. :P


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I remember studying entropy... Now that is some boring shit.


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umm.. it loses energy, bonds break things collapse and fall apart one day the universe will die.. some say it will be dead cold and a whimper others compress itself in a "crunch"


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Have to say that I skipped a lot of lectures in regards to it. stick out tongue


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well its all theory its untestable.. gives you something to think about but you are just wasting time and money.. its like sitting in a rocking chair it gives you something to do but it doesnt get you nowhere. smokin'

great fan of science quantum/physic theories and stuff in comics/movies not so much as a college course nor ppl making money off it.(professors)


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by King Castle
Question One :

Can a heterosexual person be turned chemically gay along with help from outside factors?


I hear if you jam something up a man's ass he automatically turns gay, so there is that as an option.


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Originally posted by King Castle
an unaware test subject given high levels of estrogen and other female hormones... can it cause him to start to develop homosexual tendencies and or thoughts/behavior?


Considering that hormonal treatments are generally taken by people who want to change sex, I would say no. After all gay men don't want to be women, they want to be gay men.

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what if he were surrounded by homosexual people he can interact with maybe a adult video store access to erotica and other stimuli?


No, that's stupid. I watch lesbian porn but that hasn't turned me into a lesbian yet.

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Originally posted by King Castle
i ask b/c i am curious about how some scientist believe homosexuality occurs early in the fetus life cycle when it is bombarded with hormones from its mother... some believe the fetus may get too much estrogen and although it will be born a male it will develop feminine behavior making it more likely to be gay. (its just one of many theories, dont shoot the messenger).

another is about how one is raised some think it has to do with environment even to how much time a woman spends raising a child as a factor.(even possibly molestation).


Those things would explain gay men who are dandies and thus, even if we assume they're true, cannot possibly be the whole story.

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I got an idea: lets ask a scientific question.

Do you support the idea that entropy is a reflection of the arrow of time? If not, please explain.

Like that...


No, thermodynamics is still consistent if you run time in reverse. It just becomes an inevitable march toward order.

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great fan of science quantum/physic theories and stuff in comics/movies not so much as a college course nor ppl making money off it.(professors)


How dare physicist make some money for doing the research that built the entire modern world.


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Re: Random Scientific Questions

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Can a heterosexual person be turned chemically gay along with help from outside factors?


almost certainly not

the only thing that might [and I really want to enforce there is no real reason to think this is true] occur is the association between homosexual sex and things that previously found attractive.

So, if you forced a person to masterbate to gay porn, you might be able to condition a sexual reaction in that person to homosexual sex, but I don't think that comes close to defining a person as homosexual.

However, given how fetishes work, I don't think this is true. This would be like saying you could watch people defacate on eachother enough that you eventually were into it sexually.


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No, thermodynamics is still consistent if you run time in reverse. It just becomes an inevitable march toward order.


But there is a lack of symmetry, because entropy always increases. It takes more energy to un-mix cream from coffee, then putting cream into coffee. This basic lack of symmetry maybe the arrow of time. Unless I am misunderstanding you.


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Originally posted by King Castle
i bn thinking we need a thread where we can pose scientific questions that we can ponder and or answer.

Question One :

Can a heterosexual person be turned chemically gay along with help from outside factors?


an unaware test subject given high levels of estrogen and other female hormones... can it cause him to start to develop homosexual tendencies and or thoughts/behavior?

what if he were surrounded by homosexual people he can interact with maybe a adult video store access to erotica and other stimuli?

i ask b/c i am curious about how some scientist believe homosexuality occurs early in the fetus life cycle when it is bombarded with hormones from its mother... some believe the fetus may get too much estrogen and although it will be born a male it will develop feminine behavior making it more likely to be gay. (its just one of many theories, dont shoot the messenger).

another is about how one is raised some think it has to do with environment even to how much time a woman spends raising a child as a factor.(even possibly molestation).


i think if we can answer this it will get us one step closer to a real answer about a possible cause to homosexuality.
Are you worried the army made you gay with drugs? Don't sweat it, you were probably born that way.

That estrogen theory can't explain lesbians, bisexuals, pansexuals, or even non-femine gay man. Gay people aren't the product of molestation either. Homosexual behavior can be found across more than 400 species of animals and in virtually all human cultures, it's biological.

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But there is a lack of symmetry, because entropy always increases. It takes more energy to un-mix cream from coffee, then putting cream into coffee. This basic lack of symmetry maybe the arrow of time. Unless I am misunderstanding you.


Maybe I don't understand what you mean by "arrow of time". What I mean is that if the universe suddenly starting running in reverse I'm pretty sure it would still have a consistent set of rules, one of which would be that you can never increase the disorder in a system.


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almost certainly not

the only thing that might [and I really want to enforce there is no real reason to think this is true] occur is the association between homosexual sex and things that previously found attractive.

So, if you forced a person to masterbate to gay porn, you might be able to condition a sexual reaction in that person to homosexual sex, but I don't think that comes close to defining a person as homosexual.

However, given how fetishes work, I don't think this is true. This would be like saying you could watch people defacate on eachother enough that you eventually were into it sexually.
what is your view on homosexuality in prison with ppl who professed not to be gay but have raped some one of the same sex?


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what is your view on homosexuality in prison with ppl who professed not to be gay but have raped some one of the same sex?


I don't consider prison sex to be "homosexual" in that way. I guess it is in a technical "the two people are of the same gender" way, but the actors aren't homosexuals.

In any valuable definition of homosexuality, it is going to need to account for much more than just having sex with people. Gay people can still bone women.


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situatinal sexuality

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situatinal sexuality


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Maybe I don't understand what you mean by "arrow of time". What I mean is that if the universe suddenly starting running in reverse I'm pretty sure it would still have a consistent set of rules, one of which would be that you can never increase the disorder in a system.


If time where to reverse separate from entropy, the universe would not look the same in the final crunch, as it did in the big bang. If time and entropy where reversed together you would still not reach a point of the big bang. This is something that I have read, and I do not fully understand it. There is a broken symmetry here.


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