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How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

It's something I've always hated about most liberals. I can not, for the life of me, understand how you can be ok with taking the life of an innocent, yet be horrified when it comes to taking the life of someone who deserves it. I understand someone being ok with killing someone who deserves it but being anti abortion. Although I don't believe in either. Anyways, your thoughts?


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Different circumstances, different situations, different methods and different motivations behind each act.


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Morally?


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I just explained it to you...

Because they don't feel that a fetus has an equal right to life as that of an adult person with hopes and dreams and wishes and desires, and therefore hold the woman's right to her body and freedom as higher, say in the same way that a little piggy is an innocent life, but we still kill it just cause it tastes good (not even cause it does physical harm to you, which is what a fetus does)

Additionally they don't feel like they should be in charge of deciding who deserves death. Fetuses don't "deserve death" they are just a small sacrifice compared to a real person...even compared to a real chicken.


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You might as well be both since you are murdering a human being but then again you are not an older person.It makes no sence.


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And this ''person'' that has no self awareness inside women's body automatically claims her body as its own and leashes her the right to do what she wishes with it because....?

Every time woman menstruates she kills another potential child! Oh the genocide!


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My opinion:

A woman deserves the right to abort a bunch of congregated cells in her uterus.

A murdering/raping/molesting criminal who preys upon innocent people and destroys lives deserves to die.


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Re: How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

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It's something I've always hated about most liberals. I can not, for the life of me, understand how you can be ok with taking the life of an innocent, yet be horrified when it comes to taking the life of someone who deserves it. I understand someone being ok with killing someone who deserves it but being anti abortion. Although I don't believe in either. Anyways, your thoughts?


I wouldn't say people are "pro-abortion" - we're "pro-choice," because we believe women should have the right to choose whether or not they want to bear the children. Also: Foeti aren't people, and their lives aren't being "taken away from them" - there's nothing to take from them!

Personally, I'm opposed to the death penalty on two grounds: 1. Killing damages people, especially executioners; and 2. It doesn't work as a deterrent.


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Re: Re: How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

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1. Killing damages people, especially executioners; and 2. It doesn't work as a deterrent.


1. they took the job...
2. its not meant to be a deterrent.


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Killing damages people, especially executioners


How did you come to this conclusion?

I worked in the Texas penal system for 5 years and took part in two executions, and I wasn't even slightly affected.


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How did you come to this conclusion?

I worked in the Texas penal system for 5 years and took part in two executions, and I wasn't even slightly affected.


....well....


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....well....


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i really don't see the correlation between the two.


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Re: How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

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It's something I've always hated about most liberals. I can not, for the life of me, understand how you can be ok with taking the life of an innocent, yet be horrified when it comes to taking the life of someone who deserves it. I understand someone being ok with killing someone who deserves it but being anti abortion. Although I don't believe in either. Anyways, your thoughts?


That's what I think. The condemned person being led to their death had a shot at life, screwed up, and is now going to pay dearly for it. But the unborn child, on the other hand, is a clean slate; a tabula rasa.


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An unborn child doesn't have a slate at all.


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An unborn child doesn't have a slate at all.


Agreed, it might get whacked with a slated, but it doesn't have one.


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Re: How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

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It's something I've always hated about most liberals. I can not, for the life of me, understand how you can be ok with taking the life of an innocent, yet be horrified when it comes to taking the life of someone who deserves it. I understand someone being ok with killing someone who deserves it but being anti abortion. Although I don't believe in either. Anyways, your thoughts?
It's easy: fetuses aren't people, serial killers are.


Duh.


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Re: How can you be both Pro Abortion & Anti Death Penalty?

It's something I've always hated about most conservatives. I can not, for the life of me, understand how you can be unable to understand that there are axiomatic differences between you and other people. It's like you're so obsessed with the "righteousness" of your own beliefs you entirely forget that other ones even exist. Maybe if a conservative was pro-choice and anti-death penalty then you'd have a contradiction to ***** about.


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My opinion:

A woman deserves the right to abort a bunch of congregated cells in her uterus.

A murdering/raping/molesting criminal who preys upon innocent people and destroys lives deserves to die.


It is murder and what is wrong with giving the baby to someone who needs one?Is people that selfish to think of themselves and not a human being?


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A fetus isn't a human being anymore then the mass of sperm cells I clean off of my keyboard every night could be considered human beings.


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