Yeah it's pretty awful. I live about a 30 minute walk away from the where the bomb went off, and definitely felt a tremor when it went off. It's been crazy walking downtown, seeing the army and Kings Guard deployed, broken glass from storefronts surprisingly far away from the blast.
But the real tragedy isn't in the explosion, it only killed 7 people. But the fact that the bomber went up to a youth summer camp and killed 85 kids before he surrendered to the police. This is one case where I feel that the Norwegian penalty system is way too lenient, he's at worst going to go to jail for 21 years.
I was watching this unfold on Al Jazeera, and even after they had released the demographic info of the shooter, AJE had a "security expert" who kept saying it had all the hallmarks of Al Qaeda. Which it blatantly didn't.
believe it or not, and I don't know if this is something to be proud of or not, but I knew as soon as I heard about the island shooting that this was a neo-nazi thing and not islamism.
There might be some loop-holes so that they can keep him locked up in a mental asylum indefinitely, or so someone mentioned to me earlier. But it's such a rare occurrence that I've never heard of it. Other then that, no we don't have any "dangerous offender status", believe it or not, Norway is usually a pretty peaceful country.
Originally posted by Morridini There might be some loop-holes so that they can keep him locked up in a mental asylum indefinitely, or so someone mentioned to me earlier. But it's such a rare occurrence that I've never heard of it. Other then that, no we don't have any "dangerous offender status", believe it or not, Norway is usually a pretty peaceful country.
so is canada...?
that seems like a fairly glaring flaw in your criminal system
Originally posted by Morridini There might be some loop-holes so that they can keep him locked up in a mental asylum indefinitely, or so someone mentioned to me earlier. But it's such a rare occurrence that I've never heard of it. Other then that, no we don't have any "dangerous offender status", believe it or not, Norway is usually a pretty peaceful country.
Wiki says that according to this page (in Norway letters) a person can sentence can continually be renewed in five year increments.
Originally posted by Lestov16 It does hurt me to see this type of discrimination occur
Deeply? Or just band-aid levels of hurt?
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Aaaaand we have a new spree killing record. It's a little weird how he managed to kill over 80 people in only ~2 hours. The next worst spree killer "only" killed 56 over a course of ~8 hours.
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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory Aaaaand we have a new spree killing record. It's a little weird how he managed to kill over 80 people in only ~2 hours. The next worst spree killer "only" killed 56 over a course of ~8 hours.
He on an island and had commandeered the boat that went there in order to arrive. His targets were about 14. There were few adults, none of them armed.
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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos He on an island and had commandeered the boat that went there in order to arrive. His targets were about 14. There were few adults, none of them armed.
The other guy encountered no resistance either. He was an actual police officer, so people exposed themselves to him willingly. At any rate, I was just kinda thinking out loud about that.
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Originally posted by ArtificialGlory The other guy encountered no resistance either. He was an actual police officer, so people exposed themselves to him willingly. At any rate, I was just kinda thinking out loud about that.
I don't know the circumstances but the limiting factor for spree shootings seems like it should be the ability of people to run away and warn others about the shooter along with the response time of authorities (or armed civilians).
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Don't they believe that Breivik acted alone and impersonated a cop, to draw a crowd to him?
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien Don't they believe that Breivik acted alone and impersonated a cop, to draw a crowd to him?
Yhe police in Oslo said at one point that they weren't ruling out accomplices. He didn't have to draw people to him, the island is only like 300 meters across. There was nowhere for people to go. It's an incomparably horrifying situation to be in.
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien Don't they believe that Breivik acted alone and impersonated a cop, to draw a crowd to him?
Yeah, he was dressed up in a police uniform, and after the initial first shots, he yelled out that he was a cop and was going to protect them, and then he waited until about 30-40 kids had gathered around him for protection (obviously they hadn't see who fired the first shots, and naturally thought it safe to approach a cop), before starting shooting again. This was described somewhere by one of the 30-40 kids who survived.