My son is 1 year in The Marine Corp. My oldest brother is retired from The Air Force. So I send out my thanks them them and the millions of others who have, is now , and will serve our great country.
Now this makes me want to rank our nations most impact full wars. And to give a perspective for debate I'm posing it this way:
Which war would you say had the greatest impact on our nation-Excluding the Revolutionary War.
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Anyone who votes for anything but WWI or II is a self-centred American.
WWI - Becasue it influenced WWII. (Not to mention this is why you have your Veteran's Day)
WWII - Because it literally changed the entire planet. Unlike all of the other wars on the list.
Why just "Remember our veterans"... It was rememberance day here in the UK yesterday too. There are at least 2 sides in every conflict and war, both sides are fighting for their country or what the believe is right. They should all be remembered.
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I argee but are you saying World war one and two because you live in England? My grandfather who was from England frought for World war two also so I should had added that.
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No, I'm saying WWI/II because without them all of Europe, Asia and North Africa (and possibly more) would have fallen under the regime or Nationalists, Militarists and Fascists.
Without it the UN wouldn't exist, or the EU.
Not the mention the fact that during the war the US doubled their value and became the world superpower you see today.
I'm not saying this because I'm English. I'm saying this because I can see past my own borders.
I put down WWII but in a way, it's also WWI since WWI was the beginning of the horrors of modern warfare and really led into the rise of fascist movements around the world and the start of WWII.
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World War I's effects were relatively short lived in America, the economic boom that followed lasted about a decade, we became isolationist for the next 20 years, we never even joined the League of Nations which our President thought up and advocated, and the military growth it brought was completely cut back to the point that we basically had to build up from near scratch when shit started to hit the fan in Europe in the mid-to-late 30s.
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Without using the extended historical Butterfly Effect (this war led to this one, which led to this one), the biggest game-changing war for the U.S. itself was likely the Civil War. It prevented that country from splitting in two and led to the end of American slavery. Without it, the American Union and Confederates could have been facing off against each other in WWI and WWII, instead of contributing as a whole. Butterfly activated--that could very well have meant Nazi Europe and Imperial Asia, or who knows what.
On an international scale, WWII obviously had the most recent greatest impact.
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I don't think it's self-centred of people from the US to say WWI or II, those wars brought America together in a way that the Civil War or earlier wars couldn't, because we were a large nation by then and everybody was so patriotic - you couldn't give enough scrap metal or sell enough war bonds. And of course the women's work force really boosted during those times with the men off at war.
It's really strange to compare that to today - no one thinks of Iraq or Afghanistan, and that we've still troops there.
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