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Does this sound like a plausible plot?

A cabal of Fundamentalist Christians (including VP of the US) try to kill the POTUS with a bomb during a speech and frame radical Muslims, allowing the cabal to seize control of the country and use the brief panic to establish a theocracy.

Does this sound plausible?


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Maybe it's that I don't care for spy thriller fiction or fiction in that general category, but it seems to me that plausibility is something subjective and entirely based on execution more than the concept in of itself.

Is this idea plausible in the sense that it could conceivably happen in this world? No.

Is it plausible in the sense that you could write a story about it? Sure, I suppose.

What you need to ask yourself is if it's a good plot, and if it either says anything interesting or if it will be entertaining or both.


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What I mean by "plausible" is "Does this sound like something in line with Christian Fundamentalist thinking?". Does this sound like something they would want to do?


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Is this for a story idea?


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Of course


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Then sure.


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Well, I'll just say that a writer's job is not to accurately portray reality (though studying reality certainly helps, and indeed is a necessity) but rather to fabricate it in such a way that the reader can't tell the difference.

It doesn't necessarily matter if Christian fundamentalists in the real world behave in a certain way, what does matter is your ability to make your fictional fundamentalists believable and tangible to the reader--and if you're not even sure if you can believe their motivations/actions then you've got an enormous problem.

To summarize, this is one of those "if you have to ask..." questions.


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Originally posted by Lestov16
What I mean by "plausible" is "Does this sound like something in line with Christian Fundamentalist thinking?". Does this sound like something they would want to do?


Fundies have orgasms just thinking of establishing a theocracy. If you add assassinating the President they will need to stock up on Depend adult diapers before seeing the movie.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
A cabal of Fundamentalist Christians (including VP of the US) try to kill the POTUS with a bomb during a speech and frame radical Muslims, allowing the cabal to seize control of the country and use the brief panic to establish a theocracy.

Does this sound plausible?


That sounds more than plausible, I am pretty sure there are 4 or 5 plots going on right now that fit that description perfectly. (yes, including Biden)


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And thus KMC accidentally became enbroiled in a scheme to assassinate the President.


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Accident?


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Seems workable. I had an idea for a similar plot using misplaced blame to start a multinational war.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
What I mean by "plausible" is "Does this sound like something in line with Christian Fundamentalist thinking?". Does this sound like something they would want to do?


No because Christians don't normally run around assassinating public figures. In my experience, the deeper a Christian gets into their particular religion, and its precepts, the further away from violence they become. This of course excludes the ones that claim that they are Christians, but are in fact mentally unstable. Perhaps it would be a better idea to replace Christian fundamentalists, with another radical group proven to resort to such behaviorism's?

Although even if you publish a book that vilifies Christian's, at least you won't have to worry about death threats by the very fundamentalists that you have painted this false picture to represent. I would suggest that you beef up on your knowledge before you make any hard decisions on the subject.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well, I'll just say that a writer's job is not to accurately portray reality (though studying reality certainly helps, and indeed is a necessity) but rather to fabricate it in such a way that the reader can't tell the difference.

It doesn't necessarily matter if Christian fundamentalists in the real world behave in a certain way, what does matter is your ability to make your fictional fundamentalists believable and tangible to the reader--and if you're not even sure if you can believe their motivations/actions then you've got an enormous problem.

To summarize, this is one of those "if you have to ask..." questions.
I'm profiling this, that's an important distinction for anyone who wants to be a writer should know. thumb up


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I'm profiling this, that's an important distinction for anyone who wants to be a writer should know. thumb up

Glad to know I've picked up something useful in my time at FSU's writing program.


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Perhaps it would be a better idea to replace Christian fundamentalists, with another radical group proven to resort to such behaviorism's?

Yeah, like one that murders doctors and bombs hospitals

oh shi-


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IMO, all religions are obvious myths and anyone who still believes in them today is an idiot. I'm willing to accept the possibility of a sentient creator, but definitely none of the cartoon characters we worship as deities


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Yeah, like one that murders doctors and bombs hospitals

oh shi-


Hiding behind the Christian banner to commit murder does not make the perpetrator a Christian fundamentalist.

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IMO, all religions are obvious myths and anyone who still believes in them today is an idiot. I'm willing to accept the possibility of a sentient creator, but definitely none of the cartoon characters we worship as deities


Live and let live is a good way to live your life. If one person or a group of people choose to believe in what they deem is the truth, who are you or anyone at that matter to judge them? Many people seek out religion to help them through life's complexities. Let me ask you this, have you ever studied an organized religion in depth?


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Many people seek out religion to help them through life's complexities.
I'll never be able to understand the need to submit to what basically equates to comfort food.


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I'll never be able to understand the need to submit to what basically equates to comfort food.



But that's how you feel friend, other people may enjoy this type of lifestyle. It's the way of the world. Free thought, and choice, and the rest of all of that good stuff.


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