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Does banning murder also ban manslaughter, and killing in war, and other human on human killings? If so that would make it more interesting. If not, then I guess I'd eliminate rape.
Murder's the obvious choice here. Not sure what the logical argument behind the others would be. Ending lives unfairly can't be given a price, even given how horrific rape and pedophilia can be.
And yeah, even including homosexuals makes you look like a bigot. Intentional or not, gotta watch how you're perceived.
Gender: Unspecified Location: With Cinderella and the 9 Dwarves
Rape far, far, far exceeds the numbers of murder. Rape can lead to murder. Murder is dealt with in an appropriate way in most places and can be much more easily investigated.
Not having rape would have far more positive effects on the world.
I'd pick rape, because rape targets women more and that's wrong.
Men are the target of murder more than women, so it's not really a huge deal imo.
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Well, the "rape leads to murder" argument is somewhat invalidated within our thought experiment here. It couldn't lead to murder if you stopped all murder.
Otherwise, I don't know enough about the numbers to debate with you. It's just...I can't disagree with most of this, but killing a person - ending their life - just seems on a different level to me. Rape is horrific; no doubt. But like, would you stop 100 rapes or 10 unjust murders? Horrible choice, I know, but I'd have to stop the murders. Even if it's dealt with more fairly by the judicial system, those 10 innocent people are still dead.
There's not a wrong answer here. I don't want to seem too vehement. That's just my take.
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What I'm saying is that eliminating rape would also eliminate a portion of murders.
It seems like a simplistic comparison though. Like I said, I am considering the ramifications within society. (take for example some places in Africa, where an estimated 1 in 3 woman will be raped in their life).
I agree with you that there's no simple answer, tbh, I mostly engaged you cause you said "Murder's the obvious choice here. Not sure what the logical argument behind the others would be." which I took as basically the opposite of what you said now :P
The UN did a study apparently that shows there are 250,000 rapes recorded annually, with over 60 countries recorded.
In 2012, homicide statistics show an estimate of over 460,000 intentional murders a year, not even counting shit like Involuntary Manslaughter which, per Big C, is covered.
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