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"Bad Ammo"

According to Obama administration the 223 is bad ammo, but considering its never been used to kill a police officer, why all the sudden need to take it away from us. Literally a police officer has never been killed with this type of round.

For starters the 223 is a widely used round used for sporting and hunting enthusiasts. Its the most common form of ammo in civilian and military sectors and the cheapest round to fire.

The fact that this round needs to be ban now because Obama could not ban the Ar-15 is unconstitutional.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/zero-cop...bamas-bad-ammo/

http://news.yahoo.com/saf-authorize...-192700817.html

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Maybe Obama tried using it to hunt turkeys and got burned.

****ing turkeys...indestructible with all those feathers.

Edit: Wait, I'm thinking of the .22. My poor joke. sad


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How is it "unconstitutional"?

Is it similar in saying banning .50cal tank penetrating rounds/rifles? What about banning RPGs, claymores, SAMs etc? Where do you draw the line on "a right to bear arms" is what I'm asking?

I wouldn't cry too much though, the firearms industry will likely replace it with an alternative that isn't armor-piercing rated as there's money to be lost/made


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Why the hell should any civilian be wielding an AR15 assault rifle? At best a handgun or revolver for personal protection, and a hunting rifle. You shouldn't need anything beyond that unless you're taking on a mercenary team.


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The ban hasn't happened yet, it's just talks and may not actually happen. So what we'll have is a bunch of alarmist going out and stockpiling the 223round while Freedom Group and such laugh and rack in a huge profit for the quarter.


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Why the hell should any civilian be wielding an AR15 assault rifle? At best a handgun or revolver for personal protection, and a hunting rifle. You shouldn't need anything beyond that unless you're taking on a mercenary team.


Actually AR-15 are the most common sports rifle in America. Since you are not a gun owner or a hunter or sports enthusiast I could expect you to understand.

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The ban hasn't happened yet, it's just talks and may not actually happen. So what we'll have is a bunch of alarmist going out and stockpiling the 223round while Freedom Group and such laugh and rack in a huge profit for the quarter.


But wait don't you want to defend yourself if you have to?

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But wait don't you want to defend yourself if you have to?


My fist are like granite, my elbows like pick-hammers, brah

But if I felt insecure, a handgun or even a shotgun for the home are a far more sensible alternate to an assault rifle


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Actually AR-15 are the most common sports rifle in America. Since you are not a gun owner or a hunter or sports enthusiast I could expect you to understand.


What do you mean by "sports" exactly?

Competitive shooting?

Because I can't believe an AR15 is a particularly great/necessary hunting rifle.


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Actually AR-15 are the most common sports rifle in America. Since you are not a gun owner or a hunter or sports enthusiast I could expect you to understand.


Please inform me what animal requires nothing less than an AR15 to take it down. Since you are a gun owner, hunter, and sports enthusiast, I am sure you can enlighten me.


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What do you mean by "sports" exactly?

Competitive shooting?

Because I can't believe an AR15 is a particularly great/necessary hunting rifle.




"Sports Rifle" sounds a lot less scary than "Assault Rifle", it's to help stop another Federal Assault Weapons Ban like we had in 1994.

Because when some wacko shoots up a school, the gun industry hates hearing words like 'assailant used a high powered assault rifle' on the news.


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Whenever I think about these attempts to allow civilians to own assault rifles, I just think back to Sandy Hook and the case of the girl killing her instructor with an Uzi. Why endorse ownership of such dangerous weaponry? The only reason I can think of is that deep down some are paranoid the government will go Norsefire on them, and they want weapons to arm the rebellion.


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"Sports Rifle" sounds a lot less scary than "Assault Rifle", it's to help stop another Federal Assault Weapons Ban like we had in 1994.

Because when some wacko shoots up a school, the gun industry hates hearing words like 'assailant used a high powered assault rifle' on the news.


Oh... Well ****.

So it's a nicer name for assault rifle. Wow.


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Please inform me what animal requires nothing less than an AR15 to take it down. Since you are a gun owner, hunter, and sports enthusiast, I am sure you can enlighten me.


There are many competitors that like shooting for sport and for money. Many post military guys like myself get out and like to enter into those types of sports. We used M-4's in the military and an AR-15 is very similar to what we used while in service.

Also you can hunt with Ar-15's, you don't have to have a hunting rifle to
"hunt." You can hunt with many different things.

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Oh... Well ****.

So it's a nicer name for assault rifle. Wow.


You seem to be exited. laughing

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You seem to be exited. laughing


More like somewhat disgusted.

Really don't get why you need that kind of weaponry as a civilian, tbh.


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There are many competitors that like shooting for sport and for money. Many post military guys like myself get out and like to enter into those types of sports. We used M-4's in the military and an AR-15 is very similar to what we used while in service.

Also you can hunt with Ar-15's, you don't have to have a hunting rifle to
"hunt." You can hunt with many different things.

Yeah, but most real hunters I know don't consider it sporting to use a gun with a 15, 20, or 30 round clip to hunt deer.

Just because you "can" use an assault rifle to hunt doesn't mean you should or that you need to. Also no one "needs" to use assault rifles in sport shooting. it's an entirely frivolous activity. As for home defense, I can't imagine any scenario where an assault rifle is better than a pump shotgun, unless you plan on getting into a gun battle from your porch with someone at the end of your street. So, basically there is no good argument for citizens having assault weapons but (in the words of Jim Jeffries) "**** off, i like guns"


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Yeah, but most real hunters I know don't consider it sporting to use a gun with a 15, 20, or 30 round clip to hunt deer.

Just because you "can" use an assault rifle to hunt doesn't mean you should or that you need to. Also no one "needs" to use assault rifles in sport shooting. it's an entirely frivolous activity. As for home defense, I can't imagine any scenario where an assault rifle is better than a pump shotgun, unless you plan on getting into a gun battle from your porch with someone at the end of your street. So, basically there is no good argument for citizens having assault weapons but (in the words of Jim Jeffries) "**** off, i like guns"


Exactly; that aussie bastard got it right on the money.


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Yeah, but most real hunters I know don't consider it sporting to use a gun with a 15, 20, or 30 round clip to hunt deer.

Just because you "can" use an assault rifle to hunt doesn't mean you should or that you need to. Also no one "needs" to use assault rifles in sport shooting. it's an entirely frivolous activity. As for home defense, I can't imagine any scenario where an assault rifle is better than a pump shotgun, unless you plan on getting into a gun battle from your porch with someone at the end of your street. So, basically there is no good argument for citizens having assault weapons but (in the words of Jim Jeffries) "**** off, i like guns"



I think Ted Nugent had a better quote directed at Obama. Time would like it.

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