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Indiana legislation allows discrimination against homosexuals

Apparently the Indiana state government is implementing a "Religious Freedom Act" which can be used by businesses and others in the state to discriminate against gays. There has been massive protests and boycotts across the nation to this law.

Here is some more info :http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...diana/70633532/

What do you think, does Indiana have the right to discriminate, are things just being blown out of proportion, or is Indiana just a state of bigoted scumbags?


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I feel like the guys who passed this law are going to scramble to change the wording once they realize that the law would allow Muslim business owners to apply Islamic rules to their businesses. Maybe then they'll be forced to spell it out that this is a Pro-Christian law and nothing at all like "religious freedom"


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Nuke Indiana and problem solved.


Agreed, send em

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I feel like the guys who passed this law are going to scramble to change the wording once they realize that the law would allow Muslim business owners to apply Islamic rules to their businesses. Maybe then they'll be forced to spell it out that this is a Pro-Christian law and nothing at all like "religious freedom"
Oh snap.


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Originally posted by Omega Vision
I feel like the guys who passed this law are going to scramble to change the wording once they realize that the law would allow Muslim business owners to apply Islamic rules to their businesses. Maybe then they'll be forced to spell it out that this is a Pro-Christian law and nothing at all like "religious freedom"


I'd lol pretty hard when I read this. This getting attention is probably a best-case scenario for the situation.

Moral issues aside, with this move Pence is going to force out all kinds of events that bring tens (hundreds?) of millions of dollars of income each year to the state. I've already heard of several major trade shows and conventions that are either planning on or are looking into leaving as a result.


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Honestly I kinda support this,

Free markets will weed out bigots, and you should be free to express yourself anyway you want, but you deal with the backlash.

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Honestly I kinda support this,

Free markets will weed out bigots, and you should be free to express yourself anyway you want, but you deal with the backlash.

Why in your opinion was this law needed?


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Honestly I kinda support this,

Free markets will weed out bigots, and you should be free to express yourself anyway you want, but you deal with the backlash.

I love americans.


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The best one is when conservatives say "vote with your dollars."

As opposed to...voting with your votes?


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Originally posted by krisblaze
I love americans.


Doesnt seem that way.


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Honestly I kinda support this,

Free markets will weed out bigots, and you should be free to express yourself anyway you want, but you deal with the backlash.


Except it doesn't work like you think. After a similarly homophobic announcement, Chik-Fil-A sales actually went up considerably. There's that old adage about any attention being good attention. And while that doesn't always hold true, there are some unfortunate cases where it does.

Since this is a different case, though, there's a chance you're right. But even then, 'weeding out bigots' is just going to be a positive spin on 'hurting the Indiana economy.' So I'm not sure there's a whole lot of positives to get out of this. With bills legalizing gay marriage and the like, any positive we perceive in a bill like this is going to be tangential to the regression it ultimately represents.


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/..._n_6969684.html

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Why in your opinion was this law needed?


Trying to figure out what was the stated reasoning, considering we have the First Amendment and the 1993 RFRA already in place.


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Quiet your face, scumbag.


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... it doesn't work like you think. After a similarly homophobic announcement, Chik-Fil-A sales actually went up considerably.



The definition of "homophobic" may be looser than I thought if you're characterizing Dan Cathy's statements as such.


(From Wikipedia)


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Dan Cathy statements
On June 16, 2012, while on the syndicated radio talk show, The Ken Coleman Show, Chick-fil-A president and chief operating officer (COO) Dan Cathy stated:

I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, "We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage". I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about.

The following month, on July 2, Biblical Recorder published an interview with Dan Cathy, who was asked about opposition to his company's "support of the traditional family." He replied: "Well, guilty as charged." Cathy continued:

"We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. ... We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that," Cathy emphasized.

"We intend to stay the course," he said. "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

The day after the Supreme Court of the United States struck down Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act, Cathy tweeted, "Sad day for our nation; founding fathers would be ashamed of our gen. to abandon wisdom of the ages re: cornerstone of strong societies." The tweet was subsequently deleted, but was archived by Topsy.

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why in your opinion was this law needed?
its just to help with the inevitable law suits. First amendment v crybaby is effectively clogging the systems. Sorry if that sounds harsh but it's the truth.
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
The best one is when conservatives say "vote with your dollars."

As opposed to...voting with your votes?
Dollars make more of an impact...
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Except it doesn't work like you think. After a similarly homophobic announcement, Chik-Fil-A sales actually went up considerably. There's that old adage about any attention being good attention. And while that doesn't always hold true, there are some unfortunate cases where it does.

Since this is a different case, though, there's a chance you're right. But even then, 'weeding out bigots' is just going to be a positive spin on 'hurting the Indiana economy.' So I'm not sure there's a whole lot of positives to get out of this. With bills legalizing gay marriage and the like, any positive we perceive in a bill like this is going to be tangential to the regression it ultimately represents.
here is my very stripped down reasoning.

If you were gay, would you want to force an anti gay person to bake your cake?
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Just for reference I'm very pro gay marriage and atheist. BUT I'm very anti forced relationship and support "the right to not serve" rules

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Just for reference I'm very pro gay marriage and atheist. BUT I'm very anti forced relationship and support "the right to not serve" rules


So in your opinion it should be legal for businesses to have something like "No dogs or Blacks allowed"?


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