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Homophobia: The New Closeted Homosexual

A recent study investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

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I have never liked the term homophobia because nobody is afraid of gays. Nobody experiences fear upon the sight of a gay person. Do some people disagree with the lifestyle? Yes, do some even hate it? Yes, but they aren't exactly afraid of it.

As for this study, if it's trying to say that anyone who has a problem with gays must be secretly gay themselves..that is certainly a point of view to take. Personally I think most of the time it's just ignorance rather than latent homosexuality.


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I have never liked the term homophobia because nobody is afraid of gays. Nobody experiences fear upon the sight of a gay person. Do some people disagree with the lifestyle? Yes, do some even hate it? Yes, but they aren't exactly afraid of it.
Socialsciences often use the term phobia as a synonym for aversion.


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I know, it's just when I hear the term phobia I actually think of something like arachnophobia.


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Social sciences uses a lot of ists, isms, and phobias that don't necessarily equate.

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I think this was a pretty limited sample size and doesn't really prove much. Maybe back in the day when gays were hated, there were"homophobic" men who were closet gays.

Now, though? When the majority of people are for gay rights and gays are widely accepted?

No, I think "homophobic" men today really do hate gays and are not closet homosexuals themselves.


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At least some of them are. The Orlando shooter definitely was.


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Yes he probably was a closeted homosexual and his religion told him this was evil and wrong.


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http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/0...rrorist-attack/

Very interesting especially this line, for people who want to fight over whether Orlando was terrorism or homophobia.

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Radical Islamist terror makes no distinction between shades of infidel. This week it was gays in Orlando. A few days before that it was Jews in Tel Aviv. Before that it was music fans in Paris; Travelers in Brussels; Yazidis in Iraq; Community workers in San Bernardino; Christians and journalists in Syria.

All of us are targets.

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I have never liked the term homophobia because nobody is afraid of gays. Nobody experiences fear upon the sight of a gay person. Do some people disagree with the lifestyle? Yes, do some even hate it? Yes, but they aren't exactly afraid of it.

As for this study, if it's trying to say that anyone who has a problem with gays must be secretly gay themselves..that is certainly a point of view to take. Personally I think most of the time it's just ignorance rather than latent homosexuality.


You kind of took the phobia thing to an extreme, as parmaniac stated it's more aversion than fear. But what i think it's trying to say is not necessarily that people are gay. It's more akin to sexual arousal. I can be turned own by two women having sex but myself personally am heterosexual. The issue with the homophobes come when the DENY the arousal. When the change in their penis girth shows otherwise.


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Well. Tried to post a clip of Costanza saying "it moved."

Thought it was applicable, but: "Sorry but you are only allowed to post links once you are more well known. This is to deter spammers. Thank you for understanding"

Could a hetero "homophobic" male's arousal by male/male scenes suggest a certain (unintentional) attraction toward things he considers taboo?

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Well. Tried to post a clip of Costanza saying "it moved."

Thought it was applicable, but: "Sorry but you are only allowed to post links once you are more well known. This is to deter spammers. Thank you for understanding"

Could a hetero "homophobic" male's arousal by male/male scenes suggest a certain (unintentional) attraction toward things he considers taboo?


It depends. I dunno. Im not a male. Or homophobic. But i have been aroused at same sex scenes. Does that make me gay? No. Sometimes sexual arousal is just sexual arousal.


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I think this was a pretty limited sample size and doesn't really prove much. Maybe back in the day when gays were hated, there were"homophobic" men who were closet gays.

Now, though? When the majority of people are for gay rights and gays are widely accepted?

No, I think "homophobic" men today really do hate gays and are not closet homosexuals themselves.



Pretty much this!


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It depends. I dunno. Im not a male. Or homophobic. But i have been aroused at same sex scenes. Does that make me gay? No. Sometimes sexual arousal is just sexual arousal.


If you're getting aroused by women perhaps you have some latent bi-sexual tendencies? It's probably best for you to experiment with some other females to find out.


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Originally posted by MS Warehouse
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Very interesting especially this line, for people who want to fight over whether Orlando was terrorism or homophobia.

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It's just deeply depressing when the leaders of others countries react better than our own leader.


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Very interesting especially this line, for people who want to fight over whether Orlando was terrorism or homophobia.


The shooter targeted a gay nightclub during gay Pride month. It is both homophobia and terrorism.


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The shooter targeted a gay nightclub during gay Pride month. It is both homophobia and terrorism.

Radical Muslims are homophobic and tend to be terrorists at the same time. It is indeed not mutually exclusive thumb up

* (see CNN poll on British Muslims and Pew Research poll on Muslims worldwide) thumb up

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If you're getting aroused by women perhaps you have some latent bi-sexual tendencies? It's probably best for you to experiment with some other females to find out.


So when you watch porn is it solo and strictly lesbian? No males?


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