tl:dr breakdown: Most of us get our "talking points" from some media outlet. Media generally put priorty on getting people to read/buy their shit, and so will often snip/distort/spin a story for us idiot laymen.
And that media filtered garbage is what often gets discussed. The scientists sure aren't stepping up and saying "Hey, that's not what I told the New York Times/Fox News".
And those scientists who DO speak, are usually media whoring themselves to sell books.
Let.me try an example of what I'm talking about : You know how shareholder value came to become the ONLY purpose of a publically held business? How nothing else matters but returning value to investors?
Yeah, the guy who invented the concept said they took it too far. But the media, pr firms, talk show people, publicity hounds ect all went with the extreme option of "Shareholders ONLY" because it caught peoples interest. Nobody tried to set the record straight.. No one cared.
And that's how "The machine" works. It's all just turning honest science into "Rich Dad/Poor Dad" publicity for public consumption.
That's what we all "debate" usually (Unless you're a real scientist and talking about your field, or follow peer reviewed journals and know how to read them. But if you were, would you be debating on Twitter?)
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I just generally dislike appeals to authority, because authority are people. It's like wacky these days to think a new study on _____ could be flawed or wrong.
Kinda off the topic, but always look at who is putting forward and promoting new science.
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They should make these bracelets that say "I <3 science". They would probably sell like hot cakes.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Your Lord knows very well what is in your heart. Your soul suffices this day as a reckoner against you. I need no witnesses. You do not listen to your soul, but listen instead to your anger and your rage.
I would think this goes both ways and that liberals would be interested in what scientists are saying about these issues that might contradict their own narratives.
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Do you think global warming will continue for indefinite period? Do you rule out natural causes of global warming with full confidence? Do you rule out the possibility of "natural developments" to halt it at some point? Do you think we control this planet and its mechanisms?
Remember the "ozone hole" story?
Ozone hole expands every year above Antarctica during Summer and shrinks during Winter - this now seems to be a natural construct in large part.
Not a narrative darling, but a study, backed up by fifteen years of research data. For the moment I am sticking with that as opposed to one random paper.
My dear, it takes a single study to invalidate a well-established research over the course of years. Not every scientist is politically motivated or into narrative-building.
The "ozone hole" (scare) story is a good example of politics and narrative-building effort in regards to environment and climatic conditions.
Last edited by S_W_LeGenD on Jul 10th, 2017 at 07:42 PM