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Saudi Arabia Lifts Female Driver Ban


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SA's a pile of crap, but this is a good step forward, if only in babysteps.


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Saudi Arabia wants more women in the workplace, by allowing them to drive, they can save time and money on relying a male relative to take them there.


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SA's a pile of crap, but this is a good step forward, if only in babysteps.


Indeed, but why isn't Iran viewed in the same way then?


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Indeed, but why isn't Iran viewed in the same way then?


Can iranian women drive?

In my opinion people in the US have an even worse conception of Iran than they do of Saudi Arabia, but hostility goes both ways for the most part.


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Yeah I mean sure this is great and all, but it'll take a lot more than this to make women's lives in most Middle-Eastern countries being even close to that of what a human being deserves


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Yeah I mean sure this is great and all, but it'll take a lot more than this to make women's lives in most Middle-Eastern countries being even close to that of what a human being deserves


Yeah, this is sort of like a win/lose situation here. It's good for the women, but it's also a losing situation in that we're celebrating something as simple as women being able to drive a car lol.

You get stuff like this from the article and it's depressing:

Ive said this to the Saudis many times: You really want to improve your image? Theres one simple thing to do: Let women drive cars, former CIA analyst Bruce Riedel told HuffPost last year. I understand thats easier said than done.

Eh lol. I just hope this wasn't done because SA was under the impression essentially all the other horrible things going on there would be ignored for a while.

Also it doesn't begin until June, so there is 8 months for this to change, though I hope it doesn't.


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8 months? Why don't they just let them start ****ing driving?


Also yeah, I bet SA are mostly doing this just to improve their public image. That way less people will protest when the US and UK keep selling them arms.


Is there much hope for the Middle East in the near future? Unlikely. The most progressive nation out of the bunch is Israel, who have a host of their own human rights issues and in many ways operate as a terrorist state. But, shit, at least women can wear what they like and have a sense of equality.


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I am all for them doing this, I just wish some had not pitched it to them as "here is one simple way to improve your image". It's like telling Al Capone nobody will care what he does if he donates some turkeys to the homeless on Thanksgiving.


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8 months? Why don't they just let them start ****ing driving?


Also yeah, I bet SA are mostly doing this just to improve their public image. That way less people will protest when the US and UK keep selling them arms.


Is there much hope for the Middle East in the near future? Unlikely. The most progressive nation out of the bunch is Israel, who have a host of their own human rights issues and in many ways operate as a terrorist state. But, shit, at least women can wear what they like and have a sense of equality.


They also essentially ignore a booming slave trade, Israel.

But yeah, sadly they're one of the best we've got in terms of rights.


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Saudi Arabia wants more women in the workplace, by allowing them to drive, they can save time and money on relying a male relative to take them there.
Actually it's more about reducing the amount of foreign drivers and ties in with vision 2030. Which is about reducing expats. Unemployment for young Saudi's is very high at the moment.


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They also essentially ignore a booming slave trade, Israel.

But yeah, sadly they're one of the best we've got in terms of rights.
The fact that Israel is one of the best we've got really says it all, tbh.


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Yeah I mean sure this is great and all, but it'll take a lot more than this to make women's lives in most Middle-Eastern countries being even close to that of what a human being deserves

Disagreed.

Women experience good (or) bad lifestyle almost everywhere.

Every women doesn't want to drive, specially in high-traffic regions; these may hire a driver or prefer a male companion (with driving experience) to drive for them. However, lifting of this ban will help those women who [want to] drive, so a step in the right direction for them.

It is foolish to generalize about 'what is good for women' based on your experiences/perceptions alone.


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Good development


Disagreed.

Women experience good (or) bad lifestyle almost everywhere.

Every women doesn't want to drive, specially in high-traffic regions; these may hire a driver or prefer a male companion (with driving experience) to drive for them. However, lifting of this ban will help those women who [want to] drive, so a step in the right direction for them.

It is foolish to generalize about 'what is good for women' based on your experiences/perceptions alone.


The lifestyles they lead in some muslim majority countries tend to be monumentally more awful than anything in western civilization.


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Yeah, just because I like to wear what I want to wear and marry who I want to marry, who's to say every Middle-Eastern woman wants the same? Yeesh, I really should think about these things more.


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