[QUOTE=16435434]Originally posted by Emperordmb
[B]You mean in Canada where they don't even vote for their own senators? [\quote]
Damn. Unfortunate that democratic participation is less direct, but at least they understand that democratic participation is a right.
What a bullish!t comparison. Obviously, in a union of separate countries, a single country's voters don't get to decide everything. The countries in the EU decided they'd work closer together than say America does and hence they can't only act in their self-interest. If the country's people wanted to, they could elect leaders who would decide to leave.
However in America, the will of the people prevailing isn't assured. Because now states are allowed to enact policy based on who they want voting, not to mention that certain states have a disproportionate level of voting power that allows the minority to get they want over the majority.
But per 538, at least gerrymandering might be put in the trash compactor. So we are a bit closer to being the ideal of a republic politicians will tell you we are.
Not really, I've spent much too much time here to willingly break of all the things about America I'm attached to. Hence why I want my country to be the best place it can be as should any person who calls themselves American.
Now do you have an issue with legislators being allowed to decide who is worthy of the privilege of voting or not?
Okay, I expect an answer like that from most and it makes sense. I guess I should rephrase the question. Is there another country you think your life would be better in? Let us say you would have family or friends or whatever attachments hold you here, in the other country.
As for your question about voting, I will say I have no issue with things like...criminals not being allowed to vote. Other than that I think let people vote if they are citizens and the correct age and have ID.
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For proof of that just look at the state of our educational system in the U.S.
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Not sure. Free college and health care would be nice, but due to my upper middle class sicio economic background, and the forune I've had to recieve a good high school education, not really neccesary. I''m not sure if the mental health facilities in other countries are better and that may be useful down the line due to my OCD.
The sticking point would be American culture which, due to my middle class baclground, I've been able to fully enjoy and is really important to me. The music, sports, movies, animation, and comics are all stuff I really enjoy. I also like the wide variety of food we have.
That said, soccer is a really important part of my life an I'd likely get to play it more in certain countries.
I'd probabally choose America but for someone less fortunate than me, the answer could very well be a different one. For those born in absolute poverty here for example, they'd likely be better off in other countries with better social mobility.
I noticed you still didn't answer his question. And you answered it with a Amero-centric answer about food which is just ignorant. Get out more. Hell, go to France. Go to Mexico. Go to the anywhere in the UK. Somewhere but here and eat other foods.
Let me guess, you haven't been to another country.
Stop dodging the question: answer it. Which country and for what reasons?
Re: Re: Reminder: Voting is not a Right in America
They aren't trying to, they already did. Voter ID laws were passed and when they were taken up to the courts, the courts, even acknowledging that said policy was a partisan attempt at disenfranchising those who vote for the other side, ruled that states were allowed to put restrictions on voting as "voting is a privilege, not a right".
This isn't a new development by the way, this happened several years ago. But no one in are country seems to care that politicians can now decide who can or can't vote. "For the people and by the people" has become "for the people by the people elected representatives want voting".
And off course Double D and Darth Skywalker's response is to deflect by focusing on my life which Double D presumes he can tell me about with certainty.