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Reminder: Voting is not a Right in America

Old Post Dec 9th, 2017 11:16 AM
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You mean in Canada where they don't even vote for their own senators? Where their senators get appointed by the Prime Minister? Oh yeah, Canada reaaaally has us beat kek.

Or in Europe where people in nations in the EU have to live under laws passed by people they didn't even vote for? Oh yeaaah Kbro, America is the shittiest place in the west kek.


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[QUOTE=16435434]Originally posted by Emperordmb
[B]You mean in Canada where they don't even vote for their own senators? [\quote]
Damn. Unfortunate that democratic participation is less direct, but at least they understand that democratic participation is a right.

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Or in Europe where people in nations in the EU have to live under laws passed by people they didn't even vote for?


What a bullish!t comparison. Obviously, in a union of separate countries, a single country's voters don't get to decide everything. The countries in the EU decided they'd work closer together than say America does and hence they can't only act in their self-interest. If the country's people wanted to, they could elect leaders who would decide to leave.

However in America, the will of the people prevailing isn't assured. Because now states are allowed to enact policy based on who they want voting, not to mention that certain states have a disproportionate level of voting power that allows the minority to get they want over the majority.

But per 538, at least gerrymandering might be put in the trash compactor. So we are a bit closer to being the ideal of a republic politicians will tell you we are.

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Rocky, is there a country you would rather live in? I am just curious.


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Originally posted by Surtur
Rocky, is there a country you would rather live in? I am just curious.

Not really, I've spent much too much time here to willingly break of all the things about America I'm attached to. Hence why I want my country to be the best place it can be as should any person who calls themselves American.

Now do you have an issue with legislators being allowed to decide who is worthy of the privilege of voting or not?

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Not really, I've spent much too much time here to willingly break of all the things about America I'm attached to. Hence why I want my country to be the best place it can be as should any person who calls themselves American.

Now do you have an issue with legislators being allowed to decide who is worthy of the privilege of voting or not?


Okay, I expect an answer like that from most and it makes sense. I guess I should rephrase the question. Is there another country you think your life would be better in? Let us say you would have family or friends or whatever attachments hold you here, in the other country.

As for your question about voting, I will say I have no issue with things like...criminals not being allowed to vote. Other than that I think let people vote if they are citizens and the correct age and have ID.


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Oh I am sure He will change his opinion of the U.S once there is a Regime Change.

AKA he is a Hypocrite.


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I admit we do have things in this country in dire need of change. Though I do wonder where people think they'd have it better than here.


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All this "Murica Hate" is all really just a long term plan that the Left has had in motion for nearly 60 years now. They HATE Western Civilization and want to replace it with their own Fascist / Socialist "Utopian" Society. They just know they can't do it by Force. That is why they have been doing it like a Cancer.
For proof of that just look at the state of our educational system in the U.S.


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Originally posted by Surtur
Okay, I expect an answer like that from most and it makes sense. I guess I should rephrase the question. Is there another country you think your life would be better in? Let us say you would have family or friends or whatever attachments hold you here, in the other country.

Not sure. Free college and health care would be nice, but due to my upper middle class sicio economic background, and the forune I've had to recieve a good high school education, not really neccesary. I''m not sure if the mental health facilities in other countries are better and that may be useful down the line due to my OCD.

The sticking point would be American culture which, due to my middle class baclground, I've been able to fully enjoy and is really important to me. The music, sports, movies, animation, and comics are all stuff I really enjoy. I also like the wide variety of food we have.

That said, soccer is a really important part of my life an I'd likely get to play it more in certain countries.

I'd probabally choose America but for someone less fortunate than me, the answer could very well be a different one. For those born in absolute poverty here for example, they'd likely be better off in other countries with better social mobility.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Not sure. Free college and health care would be nice, but due to my upper middle class sicio economic background, and the forune I've had to recieve a good high school education, not really neccesary. I''m not sure if the mental health facilities in other countries are better and that may be useful down the line due to my OCD.

The sticking point would be American culture which, due to my middle class baclground, I've been able to fully enjoy and is really important to me. The music, sports, movies, animation, and comics are all stuff I really enjoy. I also like the wide variety of food we have.

That said, soccer is a really important part of my life an I'd likely get to play it more in certain countries.

I'd probabally choose America but for someone less fortunate than me, the answer could very well be a different one. For those born in absolute poverty here for example, they'd likely be better off in other countries with better social mobility.


I noticed you still didn't answer his question. And you answered it with a Amero-centric answer about food which is just ignorant. Get out more. Hell, go to France. Go to Mexico. Go to the anywhere in the UK. Somewhere but here and eat other foods.

Let me guess, you haven't been to another country.


Stop dodging the question: answer it. Which country and for what reasons?


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Originally posted by dadudemon
I noticed you still didn't answer his question. And you answered it with a Amero-centric answer about food which is just ignorant. Get out more. Hell, go to France. Go to Mexico. Go to the anywhere in the UK. Somewhere but here and eat other foods.
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His question:
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Is there another country you think your life would be better in? Let us say you would have family or friends or whatever attachments hold you here, in the other country.

My answer:
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Not sure.

Then after reflection:
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I'd probabally choose America

Your reading skills:
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And you answered it with a Amero-centric answer about food which is just ignorant.


You seem to have missed:
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I also like the wide variety of food we have.

Again, your ability to read:
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Let me guess, you haven't been to another country.


Guessed wrong, though I'm sure you'll presume to know more about my life than I do. Though you should really save the inferences for once you've learned to read what's explicitly said.
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reused over the top laughter emoji

Maturity:
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Are we done double d?

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Re: Reminder: Voting is not a Right in America

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https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ivilege/262511/

"bu-but Canada and free speech!"



Can you sum that up? Are some assclowns really trying to dictate which US citizens can and can not vote?


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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
His question:

My answer:

Then after reflection:

Your reading skills:



You seem to have missed:

Again, your ability to read:




Guessed wrong, though I'm sure you'll presume to know more about my life than I do. Though you should really save the inferences for once you've learned to read what's explicitly said.

Maturity:

Are we done double d?


I was correct. You haven't been out the US. And you still didn't answer his question. Your claims of having been outside the US are clearly lies.

Nice Amero-Centric perspective. You hate the US and think other countries are doing better, just as the criticism levied against you states (pun intended). But, yet, you refuse to get out of the US.


Typical America hating libtard. no expression


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I was correct. You haven't been out the US. And you still didn't answer his question. Your claims of having been outside the US are clearly lies.

Nice Amero-Centric perspective. You hate the US and think other countries are doing better, just as the criticism levied against you states (pun intended). But, yet, you refuse to get out of the US.


Typical America hating libtard. no expression


I love when people shower compliments on other countries healthcare/welfare systems etc. despite having no knowledge of them.

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That is how the Unintelligent Leftist tends to react.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
I was correct. You haven't been out the US. And you still didn't answer his question. Your claims of having been outside the US are clearly lies.
If you say so
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Nice Amero-Centric perspective. You hate the US and think other countries are doing better, just as the criticism levied against you states (pun intended). But, yet, you refuse to get out of the US.

I neither said I hated or America and gave a detailed explanation for why I would stay. Your repeated inability to address what I actually tells me you don't actually have a counter present.

But keep deflecting thumb up

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Typical America hating libtard.

As usual, all you have here is ad hominem.

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Originally posted by DarthSkywalker0
I love when people shower compliments on other countries healthcare/welfare systems etc. despite having no knowledge of them.

I love when people keep deflecting from focus of discussion by trying to attack someone personally on sh!t they have no clue of.

You see a post where double d baselessly asserts I'm lying and dodges my points via ad hominem, and your response is to encourage him.

While you may be more knowledgeable about foreign affairs than I am, your post here is something I'd expect from a grade schooler.

If you're done perpetuating this deflectionary tangent, maybe you can actually say something relevant to the op?

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Can you sum that up? Are some assclowns really trying to dictate which US citizens can and can not vote?

They aren't trying to, they already did. Voter ID laws were passed and when they were taken up to the courts, the courts, even acknowledging that said policy was a partisan attempt at disenfranchising those who vote for the other side, ruled that states were allowed to put restrictions on voting as "voting is a privilege, not a right".

This isn't a new development by the way, this happened several years ago. But no one in are country seems to care that politicians can now decide who can or can't vote. "For the people and by the people" has become "for the people by the people elected representatives want voting".

And off course Double D and Darth Skywalker's response is to deflect by focusing on my life which Double D presumes he can tell me about with certainty.

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
If you say so

I neither said I hated or America and gave a detailed explanation for why I would stay. Your repeated inability to address what I actually tells me you don't actually have a counter present.

But keep deflecting thumb up


As usual, all you have here is ad hominem.



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