But considering more Americans are pro the "dreamers" than against them, as it's kinda part of the "American Dream" in a roundabout way, this actually looks like another flop in Trump's America to the masses. Optics. Optics. O to the P to the Tics.
He did not strike it down. The prior decisions are still in place.
From your own source - "While a major win for the Trump administration, the decision does not affect the current status of DACA. The program is still in place because other courts have handed down injunctions mandating the program continue while legal challenges to Trump's decision to end the program continue. The administration originally set a March 5 deadline for the end of DACA."
This will be going to the Supreme court later this year, they'll be the ones deciding this. And I expect them to side with Trump on this.
If Trump finally gets his way and sees the end of DACA, it's definitely a win, but only for the 10-30% of Americans who actually oppose it (depends on the poll). Although I am surprised how spineless the Democrats were on this issue considering the overwhelming popular support.
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Dems are great at bending over for Rep Presidents when it comes to things that matter. I still fondly recall how Pelosi pretty much bent over and spread for GW Bush on many an issue, which was odd as Republicans/Conservatives voters hated her/wanted her gone(still do). You'd think they would have been happy to have a jellyfish not opposing.
Alternate Theory: Dems buckled like a seat-belt on this because they know it'll look worse for Trump in the end. Which is 4D chess, but still shitty a move.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
Yeah, its true. Dems were ****ing pathetic on this issue. They only ever pretended to care, never really tried to fight for it seriously. They only pushed as far as they did because they felt slighted by the Republicans. Assholes.
Democrats need serious reform. They skate by on a lot of bullshit because the republicans are actual monsters but their shit stinks too. They were never serious about shutting down the government, too many of their donors bottom line would be impacted by it and they care far more about them then they do the lives of actual people. A lot of people hate the Dems precisely because they're such ****ing losers on issues like this. At least republicans fight.
I wonder why we feel so different on that, I feel like the republicans constantly cave form a circular firing squad where is the dems usually circle the wagons when under attack.
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
If the choice is between honoring the full faith and credit of the United States and ensuring continued funding of the largest employer in the country and the essential services it provides, and renewing DACA, it is not a difficult choice. The lives of the many v. the lives of the few.
The people who are to be blamed are not the minority party who cooperated in good faith to put forward two pieces of bipartisan legislation that were soundly rejected. It is with the majority party who are effectively holding Dreamers hostage.
87% of Americans support DACA. So why harm the country, and die on a hill for Dreamers and still lose, when the issue will become a wedge against Republicans, and Democrats can live to fight another day, and eventually win? Sometimes in politics, you have to take a step backward, so you can take two steps forward. Party purity might make far-left voters feel good, but it gets them absolutely none of the things they purport to care about.
87 percent of the country supports DACA? News to me, they polled THE WHOLE COUNTRY? Unless that's the case then that's a bs figure
Id rather put Americans first.
Many Illegals do commit crime but the left propagates the lie that sanctuary cities are safer...yeah like Baltimore, Chicago, etc...so safe. Many also use fake social security numbers to get benefits etc. I personally know illegal immigrants milking the system but there's so many of you ok with it
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