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What should the thread title be? I’ll fix it.


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Is gender really a social construct?


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Is gender really a social construct?


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Gender, no
Gender roles, yes


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It is in the same sense that "race" is big grin


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Funny thing is that even if it is a social construct, that means it's socially negotiated, not something you can just ascribe to yourself on nothing more than your own whim and expect everyone else to conform to viewing you that way.

Like for example, what is considered politeness is a social construct determined by the culture of one's society, but that doesn't mean you can run around cussing everyone out and masturbating in public then say "well it's a social construct and I identify as a polite and dignified person so therefore you have to refer to me as that."


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Funny thing is that even if it is a social construct, that means it's socially negotiated, not something you can just ascribe to yourself on nothing more than your own whim and expect everyone else to conform to viewing you that way.

Like for example, what is considered politeness is a social construct determined by the culture of one's society, but that doesn't mean you can run around cussing everyone out and masturbating in public then say "well it's a social construct and I identify as a polite and dignified person so therefore you have to refer to me as that."


If it's a social construct hopefully we can stop giving hormone blockers to young teens.


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I mean, yes, according to Google's definition of the word gender.

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Gender
the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).


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I mean, yes, according to Google's definition of the word gender.


That's not the spirit of the question.


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Oh Well GOSH! If GOOGLE says it....


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There's also a very bizarre logical contradiction. They argue against gender stereotypes, against the idea that men and women are the same... and yet somehow someone with a penis can feel like a woman, as if a man could not feel that way and still be a man because apparently being psychologically male or female is legitimate despite their protests that there are no legitimate differences between men and women that could cause the wage gap. What's more is that this is often performed through gender stereotypes. I myself feel like a man I suppose, but I have no experience feeling like a woman, whatever that means, so I have little point of reference aside from the social norms and stereotypes around men and women... which means transgender identification is likely a decision based around accepting and playing into gender stereotypes... which I thought these people were supposed to be against?

What's also ironic is that the best defense transgender people have, just like gays, is that it's a quantifiable innate characteristic linked to biology and thus something that can't just be dispensed with... however the more radical aspects of this movement undermine this claim by suggesting this weird gender-blender non-binary fluid upside down triangle bullshit where you can identify as whatever you want based purely on whim.

If it's based on whim, where it's perfectly acceptable for some people to just swap through genders on a daily or monthly basis or make up new shit with no clear definition or parameters, then why should anyone be compelled to alter how their use of language and how they conceptually categorize someone?


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Gender and gender roles are almost binary (almost)

It's not that gender is a construct of society, rather that society, built and maintained by mostly (white) men, is a construct of evolutionary rules. One of those rules is that men are men and women are women. Quite simple when you think about it really.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
I mean, yes, according to Google's definition of the word gender.
Which is the accepted definition in all dictionaries I've ever seen... It's a retarded thread where someone doesn't understand the meaning of a word and wants others to discuss the meaning as they want the meaning to be.


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Which is the accepted definition in all dictionaries I've ever seen... It's a retarded thread where someone doesn't understand the meaning of a word and wants others to discuss the meaning as they want the meaning to be.


There must be a dictionary for retards and incels and retarded incels. Only real explanation.

Wondering if one of our retard incel members can post a link.


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There must be a dictionary for retards and incels and retarded incels. Only real explanation.

Wondering if one of our retard incel members can post a link.
They are complete ****ing idiots Rob. thumb up


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