The phrase "Winners get to write history" couldn't be more accurate when it comes to the many shady things the United States has done over the centuries. One of the worst atrocities it has committed, in my mind, was the dropping of nukes on Japan:
When we put our objective thinking caps on, it is hard to see just how this act could not be considered a crime against humanity / war crime / genocidal act.
Harry Truman was a war criminal no better than Hitler. He was a racist against Japanese:
- Truman was noted to be a racist against the Japanese (also black people too, fun fact)
- The bombs were dropped purely for political purposes against the USSR
- Truman was ready to annihilate Japan (genocidal) if two nukes didn't do it
- Japan was already blockaded, being invaded by USSR. They would have surrendered very soon without the nukes being dropped.
- The United States gets away with war crimes all the damn time.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Absolutely no comparison. Pearl harbor had 68 civilian deaths. Only 2500 total including military casualties. Dropping a WMD on urban cities is a whole other level.
Plus the it was the US Imperialists who were provoking the Japanese with embargos and occupations of South-east Asia.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
War is War. If you want to discuss morality, I believe it was the morally correct thing for the U.S. to end the war as quickly and as totally as possible. Nagasaki and Hiroshima made it very clear.
Do not f*ck with the U.S. There has yet to be a hot World War since. Compared to the preceding....well everything of human history, that's a goddamn miracle.
Talk shit get hit. The only war crime was dropping just two.
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This is laughable. Guess what? What about all the crimes Japan committed throughout their history? Have we called them out on it?
I so hate when Westerns who lives cushy lives, especially in the United States jump on their soapbox and preach idiocy and how evil the United States is/are.
Don’t get me wrong, we can always open dialogues of the past. Just know if you come in with a I am superior to you attitude, you will be called out.
My uncle died in his 50's in 1978 because of the way he was treated as a POW by Japan. I have Japanese friends, it's the past, long ago. Dropping the bombs saved allied lives, and in a war which had gone on too long and seen too many allies die, it needed to happen.
This was a War Crime, yes. "B-but Pearl Harbour" isn't a good defense, since it had far, far fewer deaths and was specifically targetting millitary bases. Nearby hospitals and civilians points were untouched. Plus it wasn't used as a testing grounds for radioactive properties.
This isn't to say the Japanese were exactly innocent. They also committed a lot War Crimes themselves, so I guess you could say they had it coming.
Some people may not like it, but I don't believe it's ever been ruled a war crime.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Should have surrendered as soon as Hitler was defeated, but you guys didn't.
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