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Why do so many conservatives believe in Creationism?

i'm willing to accept that there are a note-worthy portion of the far-left who believe anti-science/evidence/reality concepts such as anti-vax and flat-earth; but conservatives seem to wholly own creationism...so i think it's a fair question.

also, please don't take this topic as an anti-theist discussion; since as far as i can recall, nothing in the old/new testament, quran, or torah mentions anything about the earth's true age.


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Did you know many other religions including Islam also believe in Creation?


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they believe in divine creation, sure. most people of faith seem to, in fact.

the topic is about the belief structure behind "creationism", however. not the same thing.


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Do ask Many Muslims why they believe in God or for that matter why they do?


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Because religious indoctrination and propaganda.

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Do ask Many Muslims why they believe in God or for that matter why they do?


okay?


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Because religious indoctrination and propaganda.

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i went to catholic school for a few years as a child. lots of indoctrination and propaganda. not a peep about a 6000 year old earth. seems like a newage concept to me. feel free to correct me, though.


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Catholics have overall accepted the facts of evolution. Pretty sure the Pope even declared as much. Conservative evangelical types not so much.


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i went to catholic school for a few years as a child. lots of indoctrination and propaganda. not a peep about a 6000 year old earth. seems like a newage concept to me. feel free to correct me, though.


Who exactly said the earth was billions of years old? And why should they be believed over the people that think it’s 6000? Who says one group think knows more than the other. Carbon dating is laughable, humans thinking they are God by having all the answers to everything in the past, but we can’t seem to cure cancer.

The same type of people that say the earth is millions or billions of years old are the same intellect and type that can’t give us any real cures for death or cancer, aids etc.

The idea that only certain people have the answers to the past while the same type of people hardly have any answers for the future.


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This is an obvious troll thread. And it doesn't belong in General Discussion. I'll report it as being in wrong forum but doubt it'll do very much good.


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Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
This is an obvious troll thread. And it doesn't belong in General Discussion. I'll report it as being in wrong forum but doubt it'll do very much good.


Haven't you learned anything? It's not trolling when they do it, it's okay.

He's totally asking this question in good faith. Just ask him, he'll tell you.


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LOL yeah, I'm sure he's doing it in good faith.


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This is an obvious troll thread. And it doesn't belong in General Discussion. I'll report it as being in wrong forum but doubt it'll do very much good.


awwww, "goo goo gah gah"?

it's a political question as well, so....


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I mean, the answer is obvious. The right caters to the highly religious via their stance on many social issues such as abortion and marriage.

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i went to catholic school for a few years as a child. lots of indoctrination and propaganda. not a peep about a 6000 year old earth. seems like a newage concept to me. feel free to correct me, though.


I went to a Baptist high school my junior year (they claimed non denominational but that's another story).

Not only did they believe the earth was 6000 years old and God created the world in seven actual days but some of them also didn't think there were any oceans until after the "great flood".


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I went to a Baptist high school my junior year (they claimed non denominational but that's another story).

Not only did they believe the earth was 6000 years old and God created the world in seven actual days but some of them also didn't think there were any oceans until after the "great flood".


the 'seven days' bit is different, though. genesis lays it out pretty clearly (though who knows what got lost in it's several translations)

creationism seems like some newage concept which made it's way into certain christian sects, with no biblical evidence to "back it up", so to speak


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Did you know many other religions including Islam also believe in Creation?




Oh, they know.. they just don't give a shit. Can't call muslims stupid now can they? Naw, that's a big no-no. Might get called out for "hate speech". They just wanna single out the Christians (or "easter worshippers' as Hillary and our last joke of a so-called president calls them), as usual. That's the left's dual-standards on full display. It's not hateful to call Christians "dumb" or "retarded" but don't you dare talk bad bout dem muslims!


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Re: Why do so many conservatives believe in Creationism?

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muslims

"hate speech"

single out the Christians

Hillary

the left's dual-standards

Christians

"dumb"

"retarded"

muslims!



hmmm... okay thanks for the buzzword salad thumb up

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Originally posted by Bashar Teg

also, please don't take this topic as an anti-theist discussion; since as far as i can recall, nothing in the old/new testament, quran, or torah mentions anything about the earth's true age.



anything on the topic, friend? smile


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they believe in divine creation, sure. most people of faith seem to, in fact.

the topic is about the belief structure behind "creationism", however. not the same thing.
to be clear, there's a large segment of muslims who reject evolution and believe in an Islamic version of creationism.

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The evidence that the universe is closer to 14 billion years old than 6000 years old is overwhelming. Radiometric data turns up errors here and there but it's consistent enough to be considered roughly reliable... And there are numerous other factors to consider eg why can we see stars millions of light years away if the universe is only 6000 years old. Sure the measurements can be wrong but then you have to scrap most of what we know about physics etc.

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