The cognitive dissonance of mental health activism, and incel culture
When you hear about depression, the images activists tend to use are "relatable" normal people, who otherwise have their act together. Maybe they have a solid career trajectory, maybe a family. They're almost always attractive, or at least not homely.
They certainly don't look anything like the typical basemen dweller" associated with incel culture. The poster child of the somewhat dumpy, anti social, seemingly narcissistic type, who hangs out all day on 4chan or 8chan and rants against PC culture, or how women aren't giving them their due.
I realize why campaigners would use sympathetic people to promote their cause. That's been the method of operation even since the civil rights movement rejected Claudette Colvin as a symbol of the movement for being "too black", and waited for Rosa Parks. Or, the gay rights movement intentionally marginalized "flaming homosexuals" or "sissyboys", instead pushing people that look like a typical yuppie.
Nonetheless, it strikes me as a pretty serious blind spot in mental health. It's perfectly acceptable to shame, marginalize, and objectify people who's self destructive behavior may stem from some form of mental illness. They won't get help from this adversarial stance.
And any talk of mental health will fall on deaf ears, when it comes in the form of condescending attack, as (let's be honest) it often is, when speaking about psychological help.
I'm not sure how this can change, but I'm certain marginalization only feeds this cycle of victim complex/group lashing out/potential physical attack.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
I'm no psychologist, but there's big flags of all sorts there.. Potential depression, social anxiety, paranoia, autism, problems with social cues, norms, and intimacy..
All things that gain sympathy, when we see someone we sympathize with.
I was serving a computer rollout at a mental health location, and have seen first hand how one woman who was a school teacher had a breakdown, and lost all higher reasoning abilities and essentially wandered around like a zombie, and had all sorts of outpouring of support, both in her clinic and at home. Yet all the more homely people, who didn't have her career background or beauty, were looked down on or ignored. One of them simply asked for tea at the psyche ward, and was condescended to by the help.
__________________ What CDTM believes;
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
Are you under the impression that being an incel is genetic and not something that is a consequence of things like a person's personality, social skills etc?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Perhaps there are people who have mental illnesses and because of those issues they are an incel but being an incel is essentially something that is done to someone. I.e. no one will fu¢k them.
The incel "culture" reminds me more of toxic fandoms in that they collectively go after people they believe have slighted them.
You can argue that the culture radicalises some of them but that leads to all sorts of other arguments about other groups and their actions.
__________________ Sweating on the streets of Woking
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.