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"Hitler was right..." -Republican Mary Miller

This also happened on Tuesday:

Newly sworn-in Republican lawmaker condemned by Holocaust Museum after Hitler quote

The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum has condemned newly seated Rep. Mary Miller (R-Ill.) for saying earlier this week that Adolf Hitler was “right” about the value of influencing a nation’s youth.

Appearing at a Tuesday rally on Capitol Hill calling for the 2020 presidential election to be overturned, Miller said, “Hitler was right on one thing, that whoever has the youth has the future. Our children are being propagandized.”

The Holocaust Museum "unequivocally" condemned the remarks.
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“The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum unequivocally condemns any leader trying to advance a position by claiming Adolf Hitler was ‘right,’” the museum said in a statement. “Adolf Hitler’s Germany plunged Europe into the most destructive event in human history, World War II and the Holocaust resulting in the genocide of six million European Jews.”

Others were quick to call out Miller for the comments, including Holocaust survivor Irene Weiss.
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Stay classy, Republicans.


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She’s not wrong, is she? Sure as hell chose a classy guy to reference though.


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She's technically right, and she prefixed her statement with "right about one thing". So there's technically nothing about her statement. It's just...there might have been a lot better options to reference the importance of youth.

If she came out and said she had just recently read Mein Kampf, which is why she used him as a reference, then I'd understand. But otherwise, it's kind of an odd choice.


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It isn't technically wrong, but when a bunch of people have been convinced that the election was stolen and people don't know what is going to end up happening in the next few weeks, its pretty stupid to say something like that.


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Hitler was right when he said said you should not eat the yellow snow. Believe me, I found out the hard way. Thinking about it, I am not sure I need to give Hitler credit for that specifically, it also seems kinda foolish in light of the other things he said and did which were much more impactful. I wonder why my mind went to saying good thing about Hitler directly...

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Remind me again how the future went for the Hitler Youth


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Originally posted by Robtard
This also happened on Tuesday:

Newly sworn-in Republican lawmaker condemned by Holocaust Museum after Hitler quote

The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum has condemned newly seated Rep. Mary Miller (R-Ill.) for saying earlier this week that Adolf Hitler was “right” about the value of influencing a nation’s youth.

Appearing at a Tuesday rally on Capitol Hill calling for the 2020 presidential election to be overturned, Miller said, “Hitler was right on one thing, that whoever has the youth has the future. Our children are being propagandized.”

The Holocaust Museum "unequivocally" condemned the remarks.
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“The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum unequivocally condemns any leader trying to advance a position by claiming Adolf Hitler was ‘right,’” the museum said in a statement. “Adolf Hitler’s Germany plunged Europe into the most destructive event in human history, World War II and the Holocaust resulting in the genocide of six million European Jews.”

Others were quick to call out Miller for the comments, including Holocaust survivor Irene Weiss.
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Stay classy, Republicans.
idk if it's the polish in me but that post made me burp.


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My personal opinion is the weaponised false news and far right propaganda is the biggest problem for our kids.

Like: Stop the Steal
Like: vaccines are bad etc.

These people are in their bedrooms before they sleep. In their pockets all day.

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Let's be honest here conservatism in the U.S. has always already been doing this for years with children and indoctrination.

The real problem is that information and access to people with other ideas is a lot more widely available now. That's always been the enemy of the right in the U.S. because it means their ideas actually have to survive scrutiny.

It's also why conservatives have spent tons of money creating echo chambers and trying to dilute the truthfulness of interpreting facts.

Turns out reality is more line with progressive views.


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Let's be honest here conservatism in the U.S. has always already been doing this for years with children and indoctrination.

The real problem is that information and access to people with other ideas is a lot more widely available now. That's always been the enemy of the right in the U.S. because it means their ideas actually have to survive scrutiny.

It's also why conservatives have spent tons of money creating echo chambers and trying to dilute the truthfulness of interpreting facts.

Turns out reality is more line with progressive views.
Bingo! thumb up perfect post.

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The real problem is that information and access to people with other ideas is a lot more widely available now. That's always been the enemy of the right in the U.S. because it means their ideas actually have to survive scrutiny.

It's also why conservatives have spent tons of money creating echo chambers and trying to dilute the truthfulness of interpreting facts.


Except, that's completely wrong.

You acts as if the internet will help cull ideas when the exact opposite is true. The internet helps ideas flourish. Where before, unpopular ideas would be unable to find an audience and die; nowadays, someone can easily trumpet an unpopular idea on the internet and, because it will now reach a massive audience, it can flourish. We've seen this time and time again.

You also bring up echo chambers but fail to consider that the left has just as many such places as the right. In fact, because the internet is generally a more liberal place due to the audience it draws, left echo chambers tend to be far larger than the right. For example, Reddit is way larger than 4chan and the upvote system ensures its even more of an echo chamber than 4chan could ever be.

Anyway on topic, the politician in question is an absolute idiot. Regardless of any supposed truthfulness to her statement, it was a damn stupid thing to say.

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Except, that's completely wrong.

You acts as if the internet will help cull ideas when the exact opposite is true. The internet helps ideas flourish. Where before, unpopular ideas would be unable to find an audience and die; nowadays, someone can easily trumpet an unpopular idea on the internet and, because it will now reach a massive audience, it can flourish. We've seen this time and time again.

You also bring up echo chambers but fail to consider that the left has just as many such places as the right. In fact, because the internet is generally a more liberal place due to the audience it draws, left echo chambers tend to be far larger than the right. For example, Reddit is way larger than 4chan and the upvote system ensures its even more of an echo chamber than 4chan could ever be.

Anyway on topic, the politician in question is an absolute idiot. Regardless of any supposed truthfulness to her statement, it was a damn stupid thing to say.
It's actually not wrong.

All you have to do is look at the sheer amount money conservatives pour into conservative news media


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It's actually not wrong.

All you have to do is look at the sheer amount money conservatives pour into conservative news media
Not to mention the way they strategically, use the algorithms of platforms like YouTube to turn it into a rabbit hole of right wing grooming and indocrination.

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It's actually not wrong.

All you have to do is look at the sheer amount money conservatives pour into conservative news media


It is wrong. And the conservatives funding news media doesn't refute what I was saying. I did not refute your argument that conservatives created echo chambers. Rather, I argued against your notion that the internet would help destroy conservative ideas as well as your implied assertion (at least it seemed that way to me) that the right fosters echo chambers while the left does not.

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It is wrong. And the conservatives funding news media doesn't refute what I was saying. I did not refute your argument that conservatives created echo chambers. Rather, I argued against your notion that the internet would help destroy conservative ideas as well as your implied assertion (at least it seemed that way to me) that the right fosters echo chambers while the left does not.
Fine if you want to clarify more.

Wide access to other people and cultures does in fact lead to people tending to be less conservative. Doubly so for America's brand of conservatism.

This has been proven in countless studies. It's also why college students, especially ones from rural areas, end up more progressive after joining college because for many of them it's their first real time spent out from under their parents and the echo chambers of their parents such as church. It's also when they're more exposed to other cultures besides the one they grew up in.

The internet inherently makes this better. All of a sudden learning and talking with people from other cultures is much easier. That's not to say the internet doesn't have pit falls but it definitely has made people for better and for worse more connected.

And yes conservatives most definitely understand this. It's why they've spent so much money creating your PragerUs, Daily Wires, OANs and etc. It's to keep their base more isolated. It's also why they've been working so hard to release lots of misinformation.

The truth once again conservatism thrives on isolation and half truths especially the modern american brand.


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Let's be honest here conservatism in the U.S. has always already been doing this for years with children and indoctrination.

The real problem is that information and access to people with other ideas is a lot more widely available now. That's always been the enemy of the right in the U.S. because it means their ideas actually have to survive scrutiny.

It's also why conservatives have spent tons of money creating echo chambers and trying to dilute the truthfulness of interpreting facts.

Turns out reality is more line with progressive views.
some ideas are good, like martial arts..... but that may be a different matter.


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some ideas are good, like martial arts..... but that may be a different matter.


They say most martial art disciplines are bunk. wink


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The truth once again conservatism thrives on isolation and half truths especially the modern american brand.


it would be interesting to see how kmc trumpers try to refute that, but they're hiding on discord sharing qanon memes


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They say most martial art disciplines are bunk. wink
I don't know if they're bunk but just overhyped on how much a badass they'll make you


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She is technically right though.

I don't see why this thread was made to trash Republicans if it wasn't wrong. laughing out loud


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