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If animals can't give informed consent to have sex. then isn't meat immoral?

Disclaimer: I'm an omnivore.

Bestiality is a human having sex with an animal.

It's immoral because sex requires informed consent between both parties (otherwise it's rape).

And animals cannot give informed consent.

Now on to the topic of meat.

We kill animals and eat them.

But why is that not immoral?

If animals can't give informed consent to have sex, it follows logically that they can't give informed consent to be eaten.

If animals don't have rights, then it's okay to have sex with them.

But they do have rights, that's why we don't allow bestiality.

Animals are sentient beings, similar to humans.

Hell, chimpanzees share almost 99% of our DNA and have other mannerisms that are similar to us.

Source.

So why is it okay to kill animals and eat them but not use them for sex?


This is just something I've been thinking about for a while.

And I'd like to see any solutions to the problem.


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Killing animals for food has been around since...well forever, animals eat other animals. So by nature itself, it's not immoral because they do it too.

Having sex with animals though, while animals do have sex with eachother, it's usually within their own species. It's not like we're seeing tigers mate with dogs or horses mating with elephants.

Humans having sex with animals is seen as immoral because it's not something that is....well natural, it's just very weird.


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Killing animals for food has been around since...well forever, animals eat other animals. So by nature itself, it's not immoral because they do it too.

Having sex with animals though, while animals do have sex with eachother, it's usually within their own species. It's not like we're seeing tigers mate with dogs or horses mating with elephants.

Humans having sex with animals is seen as immoral because it's not something that is....well natural, it's just very weird.


Animals don't have the capacity for morality, human do.


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Animals don't have the capacity for morality, human do.


True, because we, not animals, are the ones made in God's image.

If God didn't exist and that stupid evolution theory were true, however, we would have no basis for morality.

Humans have both a soul and spirit; animals have only a soul.


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True, because we, not animals, are the ones made in God's image.

If God didn't exist and that stupid evolution theory were true, however, we would have no basis for morality.

Humans have both a soul and spirit; animals have only a soul.


Please tell me animals go to heaven.

I would hate the fact if our family pets couldn't be with us assuming we go to heaven.


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Please tell me animals go to heaven.

I would hate the fact if our family pets couldn't be with us assuming we go to heaven.



I honestly don't know; really hope so though. Scripture isn't really clear on the matter.

I'll be really mad if when I get there my favorite pets aren't there with me. Had to put my sweet little calico kitty to sleep back in February.

Only thing that gives me comfort (other than Jesus Christ, Himself) is knowing I ended her suffering and the hope I will be reunited with her one day.

Still miss her so damn much. sad


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I honestly don't know; really hope so though. Scripture isn't really clear on the matter.

I'll be really mad if when I get there my favorite pets aren't there with me. Had to put my sweet little calico kitty to sleep back in February.

Only thing that gives me comfort (other than Jesus Christ, Himself) is knowing I ended her suffering and the hope I will be reunited with her one day.

Still miss her so damn much. sad
You don't have to worry about whether or not you'll meet your cat in Heaven, because if you're right and the Bible is true you're going to Hell. thumb up


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Yes, the animals in the Democratic party can not give informed consent and it should be illegal for them to use their meat.


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Yes, the animals in the Democratic party can not give informed consent and it should be illegal for them to use their meat.



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I honestly don't know; really hope so though. Scripture isn't really clear on the matter.

I'll be really mad if when I get there my favorite pets aren't there with me. Had to put my sweet little calico kitty to sleep back in February.

Only thing that gives me comfort (other than Jesus Christ, Himself) is knowing I ended her suffering and the hope I will be reunited with her one day.

Still miss her so damn much. sad


I remember you telling me on the discord you had to put your cat down.

Very sad.

My family has many dogs and they're part of the family.

We've lost some of them, and I hope they're doing fine and waiting for us.


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for your consideration.


Lauren Chen is hot.


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Indeed, and quite smart too.

Certainly hundreds of times smarter than drunkard blakey. laughing out loud


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It's not like we're seeing tigers mate with dogs


We are, actually.

Hell, even youtube has such videos.


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So why is it okay to kill animals and eat them but not use them for sex?


This is just something I've been thinking about for a while.


Normal people do not think about this.


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Normal people do not think about this.
Normal people Eon/Klaw is not.

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Ah, she hot and says things we like. Spoken like true incels lol


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Oh just shut the hell up and go have yourself another swig of jack daniels lol.


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