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Darth Thor, what is this about?

https://mobile.twitter.com/shereen_...hey-murdered%2F


Something about Israeli soldiers murdering a reporter, and then attacking the funeral?

Propaganda?


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https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...usalem-84690311


ABC reports on it, seems its legit.


Why then? Why would they crack down on pallbearers??


How can they not see how bad this looks?


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Brah they treat the Palestinians like this all the time. You just dont hear about the random schmuck Palestinian shot dead and how his pals get bullied later.

This is simply the mentality Apartheid gives. And when you believe GOD has given you the right to rule over that area.

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You realize Palestinian's are semitic?


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Plus:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...-is-antisemitic

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Anti-Zionism is not inherently antisemitic – and claiming it is uses Jewish suffering to erase the Palestinian experience. Yes, antisemitism is growing. Yes, world leaders must fight it fiercely. But in the words of a great Zionist thinker, “This is not the way”.


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You realize Palestinian's are semitic?


Yes. But antisemitism only refers to hate against Jewish people.

Edit: Just to be clear, it was a joke on my part. And I thought an obvious one.

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Yes. But antisemitism only refers to hate against Jewish people.

Edit: Just to be clear, it was a joke on my part. And I thought an obvious one.


Darth Thor was clearly talking about Zionism though.

Which in fact is backed by a manifest destiny like religious edict.

Criticising that doesn't equate to anti semitism.


Plus, I mean, look at the damned videos. They beat on the pallbearers, and a crowd of people for chanting. If this happened anywhere else people would be up in arms over it.


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Israel is anti-Islam! How about that?


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Israel is anti-Islam! How about that?


Yet the ADL was behind the anti-islamophobia movement in the US.


Go figure.


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The ADL isn't anything to do with Israel, as far as I know...


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The ADL isn't anything to do with Israel, as far as I know...



https://www.adl.org/what-we-do/israel

They're pro-zionist.


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Oh. Okay then...


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Plus, I mean, look at the damned videos. They beat on the pallbearers, and a crowd of people for chanting. If this happened anywhere else people would be up in arms over it.



Have you followed the whole thing?

They shot Shereen Abu Aqleh dead. She was clearly marked as a journalist. She's Palestinian American btw, and happens to be Christian, not Muslim.

Then Israel said they would investigate it but then tried to make out their soldiers didn't shoot her and that it could have been Palestinian gunmen, even though all the eye witnesses said it was the Israeli soldiers. The B'Tselem (Israeli human right group) completely debunked that claim with Satellite footage.

Besides the idea of Israel government or the IDF investigating this would have been as laughable as Putin investigating Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

Then at this funeral Israeli troops start battering those in attendance and those carrying the casket ! They even dropped the casket for a moment.

Btw they were treating Muslim worshippers at the Al-Aqsa mosque the same way in Ramadan (last month). There's videos of them hitting old women who are just walking away, but that didn't get as much media attention.

Nelson Mandela is the one who called Israel and apartheid state. Pretty sure he would recognise apartheid. But at the very least they are clearly big bullies.

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Yet the ADL was behind the anti-islamophobia movement in the US.


Go figure.



Pro-Israeli groups are very well funded and have massive influence over our media and governments which is why they don't speak out against this the same way they did with the killing of US Filmaker Brent Renaud in Ukraine, and why generally they are very soft in their overall tone towards Israel no matter how harshly they behave.


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You realize Palestinian's are semitic?



I mean this is actually a good point which often gets overlooked, and is part of why Israel's claim to the land based solely on their race is stupid.


But that's stupid for many reasons.


FYI Muslims always allowed Jews to live there. In fact in the past Muslims and Jews fought together to protect that same land.

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Anti-Israel =/= Antisemitism.

Good point. thumb up

Another point, anti- any religion or "race" is stupid unless it's against stupid ideas.

You know that religious unity thing they were going to set up on ground zero? Put it in Jerusalem!


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They shot Shereen Abu Aqleh dead. She was clearly marked as a journalist. She's Palestinian American btw, and happens to be Christian, not Muslim.


But have you considered that because she is Middle-Eastern and has an Arabic name, that she is automatically Muslim to bigots?


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But have you considered that because she is Middle-Eastern and has an Arabic name, that she is automatically Muslim to bigots?
Mia Khalifa made some good porn from that bigotry...


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Another point, anti- any religion or "race" is stupid unless it's against stupid ideas.




Honestly if you look at practicing orthodox jews and practicing muslims there's not even much difference bwteen them that way either.

So their dna (palestinians and israeli's) probably goes back to the same routes, and their religious values are similar.

Just Israel has more of a western influence in their ideals, given it was mostly western jews that migrated there.




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But have you considered that because she is Middle-Eastern and has an Arabic name, that she is automatically Muslim to bigots?



Precisely why i pointed that out lol

Really that shouldn't make a difference. A life is a life.

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Yeah, but I still hate anyone who doesn't like bacon. miffed


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