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Best Vietnam Film

so whats your favourite vietnam film?

full metal jacket
deer hunter
platoon
apocalyspe now

what others?

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Hmmn... Now being Vietnamese myself, I couldn't help but find some of these films a tad bit racist like Full Metal Jacket..

Besides that, I don't like watching Vietnam war movies or war movies even, they're depressing.

In 20-30 years I can see a movie about the twin towers being made..


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Flight of the intruder with Danny Glover is by far my favorite vietnam war movie.I would put a lesser well known film Platoon Leader ahead of those others you mentioned.I like it the best because like asami said,the others were depressing and this one really wasnt.
my list would go
1.flight of the intruder
2.Platoon leader
3.Full Metal jacket
4.Platoon
5.I also liked Born on the 4th of july


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I'm Vietnamese, but the only Viet film I've seen is Platoon, so I can't really pick.


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good morning vietnam, now there was a good one


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Full Metal Jacket and Platoon definately, for their blunt realism.

also, Asami, I don't see how these films are particularly racist, they may use some negative terms to describe the Vietcong, but those terms were actually used in the war, so to capture some kind of realism and authenticity, they were needed, even if they may be a bit harsh.


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hmmm nah most of em aint rascist

altho there are tons of vietnam movies that do their best to have the vietcong look a lot more stupid and the americans a lot better


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Indeed, the vietcong were actually quite brilliant in their strategy, although also very cowardly and sinister, they got the job done.


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platoon platoon platoon platoon!!!!!!!

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I found some terms not too much of a delight to here you see, they referred to viets as gook=excretement


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You also forgot We Were Soldiers, Apocalypse now redux, and Forrest Gump

We Were Soldiers is probably my favorite vietnam film then Full Metal Jacket

I haven't seen Platoon yet or Deer Hunter

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Goooooooooooooooood Moooooooooooooorrrrning Vieeeeetnaaaaam!!

One of Robin Williams better performances, bringing some humor to an obviously depressing situation. Vietnam movies that are depressing? WELL YEA, it was WAR! The slaughter of people on both sides is usually kinda depressing, perhaps necessary at times but you can't expect it to be a joy ride through the park, well maybe central park.
What worried me most about all the media being embedded into the iraqi conflict was that Americans would get a skewed look at war and see it as entertainment (like reality shows). Thankfully I don't think that happened too much, which would be a disgrace to the memories of the fallen.


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quote:
Originally posted by Asami
Hmmn... Now being Vietnamese myself, I couldn't help but find some of these films a tad bit racist like Full Metal Jacket..

Besides that, I don't like watching Vietnam war movies or war movies even, they're depressing.

In 20-30 years I can see a movie about the twin towers being made..


thats an interesting point about watching from a Vietnamese point of view- im english and 22yrs old so im neutral and wasnt alive when it happened.

i can totally understand being offended by the films or finding them depressing but that is the nature of conflict.


yeah the first film about the twin towers will be interesting...

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Goooooooooooooooood Moooooooooooooorrrrning Vieeeeetnaaaaam!!

One of Robin Williams better performances, bringing some humor to an obviously depressing situation. Vietnam movies that are depressing? WELL YEA, it was WAR! The slaughter of people on both sides is usually kinda depressing, perhaps necessary at times but you can't expect it to be a joy ride through the park, well maybe central park.
What worried me most about all the media being embedded into the iraqi conflict was that Americans would get a skewed look at war and see it as entertainment (like reality shows). Thankfully I don't think that happened too much, which would be a disgrace to the memories of the fallen.


thats why I highly recommend people to see Flight of the intruder.It had a good amount of action in it and was very realistic without a lot of gore in it like full metal jacket and platton had.Yeah WE WERE SOLDIERS is another good vietnam flick.


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thats an interesting point about watching from a Vietnamese point of view- im english and 22yrs old so im neutral and wasnt alive when it happened.

i can totally understand being offended by the films or finding them depressing but that is the nature of conflict.


yeah the first film about the twin towers will be interesting...


First off, my personal favorite is Hamburger Hill, followed closely by Platoon and Full Metal Jacket. The Deer Hunter is more about the psychological effects war and being a prisoner had on the characters.

Second, how did The Patriot or Braveheart affect you?


Zoemorn, are you from the KC area?

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sumunabeech>how did The Patriot or Braveheart affect you?

not in the slightest, dont take those movies to be historical fact- ' the patriot' is extremely unrealistic and stuff portrayed in 'braveheart' didnt happen.

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Originally posted by Asami
I found some terms not too much of a delight to here you see, they referred to viets as gook=excretement


I'm not going to set out to offend anyone, but the truth of the matter is that you're always going to have de-humanization of ANY enemy in war, like the Americans called the Germans "Krauts" and "Gerrys" and the Russians "Reds" and "Ivans."

The Vietcong called us 'Round eyes' and the half-American children
of the G.I's 'Monkey Eyes." Not to finger point, but as far as dehumanization goes, it happens on BOTH sides.

Why?
De-humanization makes it easier to kill someone, because all soldiers go into war knowing they are going to have to kill a fellow human being in order to survive. And the lower you place him on the scale of humanity, the easier it is to pull the trigger.

Which leads me to my next point, in my quote from an old French poet who said that 'All wars are civil because all men are brothers..' How true.

All of the movies listed here were really great, but there can only be one winner, "Platoon." Having 3 cousins who served in 'Nam, they said this was the most realistic depiction of the war and the psychological shit that had to be dealt with. Full Metal Jacket is better as a film about the U.S. Marines thanabout the war itself, and Lee Ermey does his best as "Gunny" Hartman. That guy is one great actor.

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Originally posted by MUSE(a band)_16
platoon platoon platoon platoon!!!!!!!
yes yes yes!
I really liked Full Metal Jacket up to the part where private pile blew his brains out..it was down hill from there for me in the interest factor

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quote:
Originally posted by Dagons Blade
I'm not going to set out to offend anyone, but the truth of the matter is that you're always going to have de-humanization of ANY enemy in war, like the Americans called the Germans "Krauts" and "Gerrys" and the Russians "Reds" and "Ivans."

The Vietcong called us 'Round eyes' and the half-American children
of the G.I's 'Monkey Eyes." Not to finger point, but as far as dehumanization goes, it happens on BOTH sides.

Why?
De-humanization makes it easier to kill someone, because all soldiers go into war knowing they are going to have to kill a fellow human being in order to survive. And the lower you place him on the scale of humanity, the easier it is to pull the trigger.

Which leads me to my next point, in my quote from an old French poet who said that 'All wars are civil because all men are brothers..' How true.

All of the movies listed here were really great, but there can only be one winner, "Platoon." Having 3 cousins who served in 'Nam, they said this was the most realistic depiction of the war and the psychological shit that had to be dealt with. Full Metal Jacket is better as a film about the U.S. Marines thanabout the war itself, and Lee Ermey does his best as "Gunny" Hartman. That guy is one great actor.



I completely agree, platoon is known as the most realistic war movie ever made. My father was in Vietnam, along with a few of my uncles, and they all agree that Platoon is by far the most real.


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SUMANABEECH-- "Are you from KC area":

Negative on that... down south a bit near the Springfield area.


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