This month on ESPN classic on sunday nights they are showing the Rocky movies.I just saw Rocky 2 last night.The first 3 Rocky films were great but after 3,I lost my respect I had for Sylvester Stallon because he should have stopped after 3 and just made more for the money because he did not care about quality anymore.ROCKY 4 & 5 suck.Which do you think sucked worse Rocky 4 or ROCKY 5? I vote 4 because Rocky 5 was more realisitic where Rocky 4 was not realistic at all.
The reason being is 4 was just a copycat off of 3 and no originality at all and totally unrealistic in every way and was a copy cat because Rocky fought the russian Dolph Lungren because of feeling guilty over not stopping the fight resulting in Apollo dying,didnt we see that before in the third film where Rocky fought Mr T again in a rematch because he felt guilty over causing Mr T to cause Mickeys death?
Then after a russian fighter beats up and kills a black guy,we are somehow expected to believe that a white fighter-who 95% of the time loses against a black fighter, somehow is able to sustain the blows to him that Apollo Creed,a black fighter could not sustain and died from.yeah right. In real life,Stallone would have died in a fight with Dolph Lungren because I read somewhere a few years ago while filming Rocky 5 that Dolph Lungren punched into Stallones shoulder by accident and sly needed medical attention because his shoulder got dislocated.
Then to be even more unrealistic,when Lungren as the russian boxer kills Apollo Creed during the match,he announces to the crowd-If he dies he dies.This was during the 1980's when we hated the russians.I guarantee in real life if a russian fighter had come over here to the states and done that and then said that he would have been mobbed by the crowd and beaten into a pulp for saying that.The crowd would have swarmed the ring and would never let him leave alive.
Rocky 5 wasnt as bad because it was more realistic because Tommy Morrison in real life just like he did in the movie,turned his back on his manager and thats the way the real boxing world is how they pray on you and get you to turn against your friends.that is why I maintain its not as bad as Rocky 4 was since it has more realisem to it which is why ROCKY 4 gets my vote.
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Last edited by Mr Parker on Aug 9th, 2004 at 10:23 PM
I'm inclined to agree with Ock. Realism has never been a strong feature of the "Rocky" series, especially after part I. I'm voting for part 5 being the worse of the two, because part four gave me what I wanted to see as a 15-year-old in 1985; Rocky, the symbol of America, beating up a commie.
I think what let me down most about part 5 is that neither Paulie nor Adrian dropped dead, which was the running trend. Rocky should have killed Paulie in a fit of rage over losing their money, then been sent to prison, where he is trained for the "Prison Championship" by his old opponent and current life-changing philanthropist--Clubber Lang.
Maybe that could be the plot to "Rocky 6".
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rocky 4 sucked worse, because of how seriously it took itself.
it was like rocky meets rambo. at least rocky 5 poked a little fun at itself...
but it was still horrible. rocky should have died at the end of rocky2, because 3,4,and 5 were horrible.
"you adrian!!!! i did i-" *bang* (rocky gets shot...roll credits)
I agree with you Botankus that Rocky 4 had a better soundtrack.Burning Heart By Survivor was about the ONLY good thing at all about that horrible movie.
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or, maybe they should have just stuck with ONE rocky.. sure rocky 2&3 were good but they couldn't have made such sucky movies as 4&5 if they had just stopped at one. I really don't see how a movie about a dumb boxer is all that good. Yeah, the first one was GREAT but did they need any others?!
personally i loved every rocky..didnt think it was nessescary for a 5th one though...rocky 4 was fantistic!!! killer soundtrack with a class fight scene at the end
i love the song theres no easy way out!
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Yeah I tend to agree but thats hollywood for you these days.It all started around in the 70's that anytime a movie was a huge success at the box office,they felt the need to make a sequel.Even though I liked 2 and 3,it would not have killed me if they had just made one because the second one is not as good and even though I liked 3 a lot better than 2,its not as good as the first so I have to agree with you.Damn I cant believe only one person agrees with me that four really sucked so badly and cant see how awful that movie really was.
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Last edited by Mr Parker on Aug 10th, 2004 at 11:01 PM
I didnt like Rocky 4 mostly because I thought that there were more gimmicks in it to get people to see it, the robot, the big brama bull in the first match and other things. Rocky 5 isnt much improvement either since by that time the series is tired all together. The Rocky series like others that Iv noticed progressively get worse even though the originals are some of my favorites such as Jaws and Alien (though Alien is debatable, sometimes I think the first is better than the second, sometimes not but 3+4 were just to tired to do any good). All in all, both movies suck but I feel 5 is better because they tried something different........even though it sucked........
Rocky five was overly garbage, Yeah it was a neat way to show how Rocky came from nothing and then went back to nothing, but everything in between was just silly. Rocky four was okay, and i kow it is the favorited amongst many rocky fans, and i have no idea how youthink Rocky four is worse than rocky 3. Rocky 3 was GOD awful. Fu*ckin thunderlips? MR.T it sounds like a circus. Four had a great villian and cool inspiration
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Which sucked worse ROCKY 4 OR ROCKY 5?
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