i just got back from seeing a screener of Alexander (all 3 hours of it) and i thought it was very good... cloest thing to compare it too of course is Troy and it blows it out of the water. It is a huge story to tell even for a 3 hour movie and I thought they did a great job of covering most of everything. everything "technical" like acting writing directing i felt was done very well.. what i was worried about was how they would tell the story and how accurate it would be to history.. and i was suprised to see it was amazingly accurate and they used a very good approach to tell the story. However it may move too slow for some people at times, you have to be interested in a story and not just fighting.. But the fights are amazing and insanely gory, there is plenty of bloody killing and rosario dawson gets naked which is always fun, and yes collin farell does have a brief nude scene himself.
overall i thought it was a very good movie, and anyone who has any interest in history or just in seeing a good story should enjoy it.. however if blood or animal brutality bothers you a lot, or if you are very uncomfortable with homosexuality (it has some akward moments but it fits their culture and their time) this may not be for you
I just read that some people are sueing the makers of this movie because it is not how Alexander was in real life.First of all they said he was not gay and in the movie they said he kissed two man on the lips.
Did any of you guys hear about this?JM
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The makers of Colin Farrell's upcoming epic Alexander are facing the threat of lawsuit, for claiming warrior Alexander The Great was bisexual. A group of furious Greek lawyers insist the legendary conqueror was heterosexual, and they're now looking into suing film studio Warner Bros and director Oliver Stone for claims to the contrary. Yannis Varnakos, spokesman for the 25 lawyers, tells Reuters, "We are not saying that we are against gays, but we are saying that the production company should make it clear to the audience that this film is pure fiction and not a true depiction of the life of Alexander." The group has sent an extrajudicial note insisting that the studio include a reference in the credits saying the movie is fictional. While Varnakos and his group of Greek attorneys haven't actually seen the epic, they say they have gathered enough evidence to know there are "inappropriate references" to Alexander's sexuality. Varnakos says that Stone has the right to freely express himself - but the audience has the right to know the director is tampering with history. He adds, "We cannot come out and say that (former US) President John F. Kennedy was a shooting guard for the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team and so Warner cannot come out and say Alexander was gay."
From IMDB.
I am looking forwards to it, even if they have Farell as Alexander
they dont ever say hes gay in the movie, he has sex with women, although there are parts that seem a bit homosexual, but that was also a big part of the greek lifestyle, and he was very close with his child hood friend who he never does anything sexual with. and the bottom line is its a movie not a history book so people know its not 100% fact
See, truth of the matter is that no one knows how Alexander was in real life. About the gay thing, well it was common custom for roman and greek men to have male relations, most men had male partners while being married. this is just what history suggests.
I mean, i am just anxious to see this lawsuit get thrown out. There is a thing called artistic freedom when writing and making movies. That law suit is one of the silliest things i have ever heard.
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I don't see how anyone in their right mind could think that Alexander is a great movie. This is the worst movie I've seen in AGES. EVERYTHING was wrong. Acting was poor, music was corny, camera placement was off, and the script was lame. I saw it at a free screening at UC Berkeley and everyone in the audience just wanted to leave because it was so long and boring. People kept laughing at the film when it wasn't meant to be funny because the script was just so lame, and Colin Farrel was obviously miscast. Believe me, if you watch this film, you're going to regret it.
I argee that it is sillly.But I would not pay to go see a movie with two guys kissing each other.It grosses me out.I will have to go see some research on this matter.
To see who is right and who is wrong.But the romans in those days were mosty gays so you maybe right about that too.JM
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wow. first off, those lawyers just want to make a name for themselves.
second, history suggests, like many of you guys know and stated, that the bisexual lifestyle during those eras were common.
these people need to realize that it's only a movie. if you can sue people for historical inaccuracies from history to the movies, mel gibson would be broke.
coming soon just reviewed it and think this will be helpfull..
Who should see the movie? This is Oliver Stone's interpretation of Alexander, if you enjoy his other work you should also enjoy this. Colin Farrell fans will get to see a lot of him here. He cuts a commanding figure as Alexander and that should make them happy. Action fans will love the battle scenes, but hey have to also accept the long stretches of background and a fairly high background level of homo-eroticism. If you are looking for a love story there is not really one here, other than the love for power that drives Alexander. The movie will make you think, mostly about whether you agree with some of the premises or not. The film has a R rating for multiple good reasons, there are often graphic battle scenes, a couple rapes (one man on man), and an over-extended sex scene (not between Alexander and Hephaistion).
Its too bad Oliver Stone got his hands on this one. Save your money. This is probably the worst movie I have seen all year---and guess what I'm a guy who liked Troy and King Arthur--so you know this has to be terrible. There were three groups of people that actually got up and left in the middle. I think it was all of the homosexual undertones laced throughout the entire movie. I found myself laughing at much of the dialogue. Oh and it was sooooooooo long, it would never end.
The only redeeming quality in this movie is Rosario Dawson's bare gigantic rack....thats it.
One more thing---what was the deal with the accents in the movie---some of them had scotish accents (not Collin Farrel), some had american/english accents, and angelina jolie had some sort of russian thing going on. Am I missing something here. Why didn't they get one homogenous (pun intended) accent for all of greece?
^^ yes I noticed that -- especially when there was this one scene with a guy speaking in a very heavy scottish accent - almost felt like a Braveheart moment
Collin Farrell always seems to do good with his accents-
yea what was up with Angelina Jolie - hardly aging
there was a point where Collin Farrel and Angelina Jolie looked practically the same age
imo, this movie was alright, for a movie based on a man who spent his life going through war they barely showed any of them, and just focused too much on his homosexuality, it was basically stretched for the 3 hour mark
imo troy was alot better, seeing as it explored Troy and not too much of Achilles sex life
angeline jolie's character wasnt macedonian, i forgot where she was originally from, around the end they definitely could've put more white in her hair, they did a pretty good job with the veins around the eyes though......unless that was just her lol
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