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aniron
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Question black riders, on horses or dragons?

I think (for some reason) that the nazgul are far more scarier when they are on horses than dragons, what do you think?

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YES!! they are freaky on horses!!! they are VERY scary on horses...the thought of having those coming after you on horses gives a eery feeling


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I agree. I think it's because horses are real and make the terror feel more real, while dragon's are not and remind that it's just a fantasy.

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exactly! *shivers at the thought of a wraith coming after me on a horse*


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hehe "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? those wraiths are still out there!!!"-sam


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yup i agree, and the sound of hoofs coming towards you, the horses breath wile they run, and there roar (thats whats its called) messed RUN

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thats scary for me because the horses are like dead and bleeding and they have pins and nails in their hooves which is so sad and there is like blood dripping from them sad thats sad

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i agree that they are much scarier on horses, but i beleive that it is because on horses we can equate them to something real. we all know what a horse sounds and looks like, plus we can imagine being run down by one (remember Ichabod Crane). as for dragons, they are imaginary so there isnt that elimant of realism.


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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromė himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.

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i dunno in the book the dragons creeped me out more...dont ask why...but in the movie definetly the horses....ewww they gave me the chills


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It made the Arwen chase exciting though... and when Arwen so memorably said "If you want him, then come and claim him". Cool!


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Yes I agree with you... far scarier (and far better) on horses.

When they fly, they're kinda far away, far too far... but I think that'll change on Pelennor.


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Yeap they aren't so scarier in air because they are so far...But if they were flying on horses i think i would prefer to fight a flying nazgul on horse than a flying nazgul on "dragon".

Just a doubt???? Are you all sure that they are flying on dragons? But what kin of dragons? The last dragon on middle-earth was smaug killed by Bard in Bilbo's quest years ago (Hobbit).

I call the flyers "nazgul" and the fallen human kings who fly on nazguls or walk in middle-earth by horse I call ring specters.

It is a doubt I always had. I remember read that Nazguls and ring specters are not the same. The first ones are the flyers who are mounted by the ring specters.

Can you explain me that?


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They are no dragons, but because it's shorter they're called so... they are like a kind of dinosaurs (forgot the name...)... Tolkien just called them "flying beasts" or something like that.

Ring specters? Cant remember that name...
I just think that there are the Nazgul (or Ringwraiths), and if they don't want to walk, they ride on horses or, later, on this Fell Beasts.

What do you think Nazgul are?

There were most probably only two (great) dragons who survived the War of Wrath - Scatha and Smaug.
Sauron breeded the flying things, I think - but maybe he used smaller dragons.


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well tolkien called them fell beasts, but other then that i have no clue what they are.


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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromė himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.

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i think their kool on both but maybe slightly scary on horses


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Corlindel
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I don't know what kind of monsters they are but they are not dragons for sure. Maybe "small dragons" as Exa says

I think there is a little confusion about nazguls and the Ringwraiths in Tolkien books.


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oooo i loved the whole ringwraiths and arwen chase, that was exciting!!! And then strongly saying "if you want him, come and claim him!" Arwen rocks in my book! hahaha

I would be scared outta my wits if there was a ringwraith coming after me on a horse...the horses looked scary and it just made the ringwraiths scarier, and plus the screaming sounds they make are even more scarier!!!


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I think they're scarrier on Fell Beasts than on horses. If you doubt it then wait 'till we all watch ROTK. By the looks on the trailer, they're gonna scare the wits outta ya.

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aniron
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how scary for arwen she had all nine of them chasing after her, and their screams are so creepy, I totally agree with exa because they are closer on horses than the flying things.


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Oh yes they're really creepy at the beginning of the trailer over Minas Tirith... I loved that scene...
But I didnt like them so much in TT - except for the ones in the very end flyin somewhere on the sky.
The rest were a bit strange and surreal... didnt like that so much.


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