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Hypernova
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Ask Peter Jackson
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Oct 3rd, 2003 10:04 AM |
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Exabyte
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obviously you can 
Ah that would be interesting... but I have so many questions, couldnt decide which to take...
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Oct 3rd, 2003 10:44 AM |
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Hypernova
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We'll see Might come in tomorrow and find it gone.
What would you like to know?
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Oct 3rd, 2003 11:03 AM |
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Exabyte
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Hm... soooo many things... mainly names and details in the films, but also personal things... and why he wanted the Lórien elves to be blond
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Oct 3rd, 2003 11:09 AM |
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Corlindel
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Yeap! Blond elves are a plague and a lie. But i can see that all the female fans of LOTR like blond elves - I can see it by Legolas fans..sorry Orlando fans 
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Oct 3rd, 2003 12:25 PM |
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Corlindel
Noldor
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So I understand that Pater Jackson tried to cative new female fans beside of made a trueless adaptation of Tolkien's LOTR
P.S.
And don't misunderstand me cause elves - Noldor - are my favourite race.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 12:28 PM |
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Exabyte
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But the blond elves look (at least some of them) a bit strange... i mean, just look at the ones at Elrond's council...
He said in an interview that "Lórien elves are blond and Rivendell elves are dark-haired" - nonsense!! Lórien-elves are as darkhaired as everybody else... and IF there are blond elves, I think they'd rather live in Rivendell, cuz it was built later as a refuge for the remaining elves.
The strange thing is, Tolkien once calls the woodelvenking, probably Thranduil, "blond" 
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Oct 3rd, 2003 12:35 PM |
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Corlindel
Noldor
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See the elves familys in Silmarillion and their skills in Silmarillion.
There are many kinds of elvish familys and their power and phisical skils are very different too.
But is to much for me seeing so many blond elves at the council. I didn't like that scene. I thought I was at the circus...sorry.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 12:43 PM |
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turin
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if i remember right the house of finarfin was blonde and galadriel was his daughter. as for the rest of the elves in lorien i cant remember anything else regarding their hair color.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 02:21 PM |
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Exabyte
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Yah because of Indis, Finarfin's mother;
But as (probably ) not all elves of Lórien are children of Galadriel or Finarfin...
They were sylvan-elves/Nandor, ?Noldor? and perhaps some Falas-elves/Teleri (like Celeborn), and Nandor and Noldor had dark hair while the Teleri were silver-haired (or also dark)(Celeborn also is).
The only blond ones are the Vanyar and their children; nearly all Vanyar are in Aman.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 03:00 PM |
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turin
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nice. you know your stuff. i agree probably very few if any of the avari and teleri that remand in middle earth (avari, sindar, moriguendi, nandor, falathrim, silvan, plus any other names you can think of) were blonde although it is mentioned that many were grey like thingol who went by greymantel or something like that for their grey or silver hair. i doubt that galadriel had enough children to populate a race of blondes in lorien (although she definetiley had the time, lol). and "mixing" of the different types of elves probably never happened in realms such as thranduils.
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and filled with wrath and despair he mounted upon Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking that Oromë himself was come: for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 03:27 PM |
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Corlindel
Noldor
Gender: Male
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I am dizzy and confused with do many colors.
But thanks. I will read Silmarillion again.
But i am sure that only Galadriel was the only Noldor in Lorien, I think the other elves there were the locals who stop the long march to west at Lorien, and when Galadriel built is reign and protect the Lorien forest, found then there.
So, i think they are probably Nandor.. or maybe another kind of Avari.
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Oct 3rd, 2003 03:59 PM |
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turin
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well if i remember right avari were elves that forsook the journey alltogther and you dont here anything of what happened to them. nandor elves were teleri that once they reached the anduin they stoped. i beleive you are right though in galadriel being the only elf that was noldor in lorien, and as a matter of fact wouldnt she also be the last one in middle earth at the time of the war of the ring? i guess you could count elrond since all his fathers and such were and you can count glorfindel if you support the whole 1 glorfindel theory, but were there any others?
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Oct 3rd, 2003 05:34 PM |
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Exabyte
muelltonne
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Thats right  only very few of the Avari is known... and exactly 6 words of their languages which are also nearly the same lol
I also think Galadriel was the last (at least the last known)
Most Noldor died or wanted back to Aman after the end of the Second Age.
But I think PJ is not the right person to talk about that :P rather Tolkien
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Oct 3rd, 2003 07:00 PM |
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Sifer
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Exactly what I was going to say Exa. I think we should leave out questions concerning the history of middle earth etc and instead focus on how he achieved certain things and the pains he had to go through to do it etc.
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