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Agent Elrond
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Elrond and Elros

In case u don't know Elrond and Wlros are brothers and are half-elves.
Each chose a different path. Elrond chose to be an elf and Elros chose to live with mortal men and be the first king of Numenor. Elrond hasn't died, yet Elros did. I'm wondering how that happened if they both came from the same parents.


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because they were given a choice
to be of elf kind
or of man

elrond chose elf
elros chose man

man dies
elf doesnt

bada-bing question answered


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Same birth does not incorporate similar decisions stick out tongue


... Interesting I think the story of their childhood... they parents Earendil and Elwing died/disappeared when the twins were but a few years old, defeated by Feanor's sons who also captured the two kids and wanted to kill them, but Maglor persuaded the others (ok actually I think there was only Maedhros left?) to keep them... so they were raised by Feanor's sons that had destroyed their homes in Arvernien smile


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what sauron said ^^

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yes...and elros was longest lived of all the men in the world...

@exa...i must've missed that part about Feanor's sons...

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didnt ya know, tut tut, take that screen name off now!

Maedhros was great, shame that Maglor wondered in pity the rest of his life like a

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didnt ya know, tut tut, take that screen name off now!

Maedhros was great, shame that Maglor wondered in pity the rest of his life like a

Discos - ...loser! stick out tongue


yes i do know about his sons...just didn't remember if they took care of elrond and elros...

Maedhros was a lot like his father...

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all wrong all wrong...don't wreck havoc on the innocentssad


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Originally posted by Cynethryth
Same birth does not incorporate similar decisions stick out tongue


... Interesting I think the story of their childhood... they parents Earendil and Elwing died/disappeared when the twins were but a few years old, defeated by Feanor's sons who also captured the two kids and wanted to kill them, but Maglor persuaded the others (ok actually I think there was only Maedhros left?) to keep them... so they were raised by Feanor's sons that had destroyed their homes in Arvernien smile


By that time, it was down to Maedhros and Maglor. The three "c" sons were killed in Doriath, and Amrad and Amras were killed in the assult against (correct me) Belfalas that captured Elrond and Elros' parents.


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Maedhros was indeed in many things like his father while Maglor was the most modest and sensible of the brothers, and he also did not really support the idea of Feanor's oath. He was also a great musician and poet btw ^^

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yes...and elros was longest lived of all the men in the world...
@exa...i must've missed that part about Feanor's sons...


Longest lived except for Túrin and Nienor who according to the Lost Tales became immortal

There is one more story about something similar.... I just forgot what exactly it was... also had something to do with twins... Was it Elúred and Elúrin? ~ I'm not exactly sure, but after the assault on Dior's home, Celegorm kidnapped them and left them in the forest to die... nothing was ever heard about them again
but thats kinda offtopic stick out tongue



I think Elros and Elrond are quite central characters in Middle-earth, somehow also the connection between Silmarillion and Lotr... and like a symbol for the according to Tolkien main themes of lotr, Death and (the desire for) Immortality


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quote:
Originally posted by Cynethryth
Maedhros was indeed in many things like his father while Maglor was the most modest and sensible of the brothers, and he also did not really support the idea of Feanor's oath. He was also a great musician and poet btw ^^

Longest lived except for Túrin and Nienor who according to the Lost Tales became immortal



But then Turin and Nienor wouldn't actually be human mortals...so it stands to a sense that Elros is the longest lived mortal...

As for Maglor, he was sensible but the saddest of them all because of how he went off all sad and depressed...(don't have the book for reference to be sure)

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But then Turin and Nienor wouldn't actually be human mortals...so it stands to a sense that Elros is the longest lived mortal...

As for Maglor, he was sensible but the saddest of them all because of how he went off all sad and depressed...(don't have the book for reference to be sure)


Hmm, they are human... and were mortal... but bathed in Fôs'Almir (oss.), the Bath of Flames (like already the maidens of Anor did), hence their love "became immortal" - and so did they. But, true, Elros was the only "real mortal" ^^

Yea sad
Maglor even tried to end Feanor's Oath after the War of Wrath, but his brother Maedhros persuaded him to steal the Silmarilli from Eonwe (who kept them after Morgoth's Downfall)... afterwards he cast his Silmaril back into the Sea of Belegaer... wonder what happened to him after the drowning of Beleriand? Was he still wandering along the coasts restlessly?


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Originally posted by Cynethryth

Yea sad
Maglor even tried to end Feanor's Oath after the War of Wrath, but his brother Maedhros persuaded him to steal the Silmarilli from Eonwe (who kept them after Morgoth's Downfall)... afterwards he cast his Silmaril back into the Sea of Belegaer... wonder what happened to him after the drowning of Beleriand? Was he still wandering along the coasts restlessly?


yeah...that would be a good story as to what happened to him...if he wandered for all eternity as a restless spirit or something...it would be moot ending if he's with his brothers at Mandos' Hall...

But then Elrond in the undying land would have lost two of his closest relatives never to be seen until the end days...Elros and Arwen...As sad is Maglor's fate was...how much sadder is Arwen's? Like her uncle...she too would be very long lived...

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