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The Rover

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Warning Radagst the Brown

In FotR, and the end of RotK, when the butterfly comes, could it not be said that the butterfly was Radagast?
In the LotR book, it is said:
"Radagast is, of course, a worthy wizard, a master of shapes and changes of hue."
Could PJ not say that the butterfly was Radagast, and that he had come with tidings to Orthanc?
Or, that it was an emissary of Radagast, sent to Orthanc with tiddings, and then later to signal the coming of the Eagles?
Think on this. cool


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Mothy wasnt in the book versions

So no, its not radagast


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said could PJ say that it "WAS".
'Cause Elves weren't in Helm's Deep in the book, so by your logic, they weren't Elves.


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Yeah but the elves at helms deep say 'hello, we are good looking elves, we will help'

In FotR and RotK there is NOTHING WHATSOEVER that indicates The moth is radagast


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Holy shit....your hardcore........you need 'absolute evidence'.....
What about when PJ and Fran Walsh said 'We just don't show them going into the Old Forest...."Yeah, jack shit, you guys are just lazy.
Maybe no one else would have sat and watched a 12-hour movie, but I would've.


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So would i, but what does that have to do with anything?

Tom bombadil puts nothing into the story, maybe if he waltzed into the battle at the black gate and sang the orcs to death, maybe they would have put him in FotR

But he does nothing

Hello tom, Bye Tom.

All he does is give them the swords, which they were instead given by galadriel

Because galadriel must give them that, instead of the real gifts, as there was no scouring, so no need for seeds wink


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See.....I forgot that.....AND THAT PISSES ME OFF, SO MUCH, IT'S NOT FUNNY.
DEATH TO THE USURPERS!


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OMG i just realized an important point about the Sword used to kill the Wraith king... Tom gave merry the only sword by fate that could peirce his armor... that is a really important over looked fact... everyone thought the wraith king just died by a normal weapon sad


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Hey....your right!
Good for you, for figuring that out!
I didn't......................


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Blast, I thought it was "Radgast"...so much for my theory that the wizards had seven letters in their names.

EDIT: Who is the other, less-known wizard that I can't think of? There's Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, and...?


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in the films Aragorn gives them swords...
galadriel gives them daggers which they loose...
merry and pippin are armed by citiy armies of minas tirith and edoras...
sam still has his sword form aragorn...
and obviously frodo gets sting from bilbo...

every one pitches in! smile

as for Tom Bombadil... he illustrates that the ring does not effect everything... he gives the ring depth...

the one sad thing about loosing tom, is the loss of the Barrow wight...
that would have been a cool scene!


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quote:
Originally posted by FeceMan
EDIT: Who is the other, less-known wizard that I can't think of? There's Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, and...?


... and the two Blue Wizards (Ithryn Luin), Alatar and Pallando.


The idea of the Moth and Radagast is interesting... but I dont think PJ would think so much about ideas like that laughing out loud

The function of R. would be quite different from the book where he unknowingly leads Gandalf into Saruman's, hm, trap, while in the film - he'd rescue him? blink


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quote:
Originally posted by Melkórë
Holy shit....your hardcore........you need 'absolute evidence'.....
What about when PJ and Fran Walsh said 'We just don't show them going into the Old Forest...."

Yeah, jack shit, you guys are just lazy.


How dare you call them lazy you git. Sorry for the language but that annoys me to shit calling them lazy. a 7 year project gone excellent and you call them lazy? Good call

as for Radagast.....he rules, he was Gwaihir's drinking buddy and sent them to the black gate so he could steal his pint

Discos - ah its been a while since you have all heard my nonsence


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quote:
Originally posted by Exabyte
... and the two Blue Wizards (Ithryn Luin), Alatar and Pallando.


The idea of the Moth and Radagast is interesting... but I dont think PJ would think so much about ideas like that laughing out loud

The function of R. would be quite different from the book where he unknowingly leads Gandalf into Saruman's, hm, trap, while in the film - he'd rescue him? blink


Ok, so the Radagast=Moth thing is ruined....(by the way, I PMed him last night about the two Ithryn Luin).....


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The elf captain at Helm's Deep was unbearably ugly. It detracted from the purpose.


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@shaber

yes yes
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Originally posted by Melkórë
Ok, so the Radagast=Moth thing is ruined...

Not ruined Ô_o why should it be ruined?
I just wrote my opinion, like everybody else here no expression

In my opinion it is a very interesting and also intelligent theory, I just fear that's too much thinking and interpretation for this film... if Mothy really would be, they would definitely have mentioned something in the making-ofs so that more people can take part in their ingenious ways of thinking stick out tongue


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or he might have also sent the moth erm


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Thats what I said..........


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Haldir wasnt ugly.


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quote:
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Haldir wasnt ugly.



in the movie? sick yes he was sick


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