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Who's the best: Eowyn or Arwen?
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Arwen VS Eowyn
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DanielLB
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Smile Arwen VS Eowyn

Ok, at the moment we have a Aragorn VS Legolas thread so i thought we should see who would win between Arwen and Eowyn! Not a fight however....just your feelings and thoughts. Now i know that hundreds of fans hate Liv Tyler and Arwen but i hope this doesn't affect the results.....

I have to go with Arwen as the best because she gave away her immortality for the once she loved and never gave up hope. stick out tongue big grin


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Movie or Book?

Book> Éowyn. She's strong-minded, and not willing to be told what to do by a man. I like that in a woman.

Movie> Arwen. Because I think Liv Tyler is....beautiful. Atherial (sp?).
Éowyn's character comes off a bit weak, due to some....sub-standard script-writing.

But then again, I didn't like how they cut Glorfindel out to make Arwen a deeper character....so I'm undivided Movie-wise. wink


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I say Arwen, even though she did completely nothing durring the war of the ring, she was a Noldor elf I believe.

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I should say that the lady who could give up her people not just for life, but for eternity in return for the uncertain fate of mankind; who could stand to wait for years while her man risked his life countless times, and to see the stress it placed on him and still be a support when he did turn up is a strong enough character for my taste. I like Arwen.

I have to admit I voted for the both of them though, because I really like Eowyn too. I just thought I would explain my reasons for liking Arwen more thoroughly because not a lot of people seem to understand why I think she's not bad in the book at all.

No need to explain my Eowyn fandomness, I suppose. wink

Forgive me if this would be a little irrelevant to the topic, but Smodden and I were talking last night, and the conversation led to the love triangle between Arwen, Aragorn, and Eowyn. You could say we kinda discussed how the story might change if Aragorn really did fell in love with Eowyn and abandoned Arwen. I have to admit that both the Smod-atron and I were kinda cloudy headed while we were talking since it was the midnight, so we didn't really have the chance to think clearly and come up with a lot of possible consequences that might ensue. We only came up with a couple (no pun intended). stick out tongue

Today though, I was thinking more clearly (never a good idea wink ) and came up with a follow-through on the likely consequences.

Aragorn didn't pursue Eowyn for a number of reasons:

Firstly and most importantly, he was very much in love with Arwen, whereas Eowyn was just someone he met, to whom he meant no harm (if one would re-read the passage in which they meet: he's embarrassed and worried by the infatuation that he sees in her).

Secondly, he was betrothed to Arwen, which was once a commitment every bit as binding as marriage (in the Middle Ages, the betrothal was a ceremony in its own right).

Thirdly, and closely linked to the above, Aragorn is deeply indebted to Arwen's father, whom he esteems very highly, and to whom he would never consider offering such an insult as the abandonment of his daughter.

Fourthly, Aragorn is sufficiently wise to see Eowyn's infatuation as just that: a passing "crush" that would end if allowed to do so; leaving her to discover the reality of love later on. We can see that he understands this from his parting words to her on leaving for Minas Tirith.

Fifthly, of course, there's politics: if Aragorn were to break off his engagement to Arwen in Eowyn's favour, the fragile alliance between Men and Elves could collapse utterly. Aragorn has asked a lot of Elrond in asking for his daughter's hand, and to abandon her would be to throw away the greatest gift that his mentor and benefactor could offer him. Whereas Elrond might forgive, I'm not sure that all other Elves would show such wisdom. Theoden, although blameless, could either refuse the match or face the enmity of the Firstborn, becoming the loser in either case.

These things being so, in my view, the possibilities include the following:

1. Arwen dies of grief, or becomes an Elven Miss Depression. Her life is ruined, as is Elrond's. Elrond never speaks to Aragorn again, and the ties between the Elves and the Dunedain are permanently severed.

2. The bond between Rohan and Gondor is temporarily strengthened, but since Eowyn doesn't really love Aragorn, she could fall for Faramir anyway. That situation could fall out in any number of disasters, including a split between Rohan and Gondor and civil war between the King and the Steward. This assumes a victory over Sauron and Faramir's survival, but this would not be a safe assumption because...

3: Aragorn's banner is never finished. He approaches the Pelennor Fields unrecognized and his army is attacked by both sides in the confusion. Eowyn follows him rather than the Rohirrim (because they're in love), so she's on the wrong part of the field to face the Witch-King. Then Wiki defeats Minas Tirith, leading the other Nazgul to resume their search, and Sauron's Eye, which is recently preoccupied at the battle, returns to Mordor, noticing Frodo and Sam. Game, set and match to Sauron.

I doubt that I've caught all of the possibilities, but I hope that I've struck reasonably close to the mark.

It's amazing how a detail such as Aragorn falling for Eowyn might change the whole course of the story. It's even more amazing how Tolkien had interwoven everything.

But still, it would be a huge plot twist! eek!


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Eowyn.


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Arwen is the best see is so cool especially the way she gave up her people and her father for the one she loved.


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If it's from the books, then Eowyn. Arwen was not in a great deal of the books. However, in the movies, she was well-portrayed and educated me about a deeper side of Arwen (other than her being a Lúthien Tinúviel to Aragorn's Beren). This is only the impression I got, though.

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voted Arwen


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i didn't like Eowyn in the films she didn't look like a warrior as she was portrayed in the book


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Arwen is hot and gives up her people for Aragorn. That tqakes courage


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^ why can't people come up with a thoughtful and intelligent answer to something?


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^ looks fine. Now topic...

Arwen, for me. Haven't read the books so I don't like Eowyn due to the 'sub-standard script-writing' mentioned earlier in this thread.


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I belive in da movies Arwen

In the books Eowyn and becuz Arwen was only metioned once in the books.


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Well Arwen is mentioned in the Appendices. They tell the story of Arwen and Aragorn..

Anyway, I like Arwen better in both. I don't know why, but for some reason I've always had an aversion to Eowyn (and Mirando Otto for that matter). Perhaps it just bugs me because I feel like she's encroaching on Arwen's guy... hmm.
Anyway, I like Liv Tyler much better, and the Arwen/Aragorn thing makes much more sense.

So as a hopeless romantic, Arwen gets my vote for both movie and book.


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yeah i agree Arwen is the best and my friend thinks so too. and she says aragorn and arwen are the perfect couple!

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i like Eowyn better, in the movie they made the whole Eowyn-Aragorn-Arwen love triange a WAY bigger deal than it really was...kinda made me mad cuz that was the reason for a lot of Eowyn hating...but she really is a great character.
(wow, i havent been to this forum in sooo long!)


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