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st@rlight
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 Continued...
Let's try to continue the lotr story beginning with the 4th age. 
i shall begin...
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:14 AM |
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st@rlight
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Legolas and Gimli made a boat and sailed to the undying lands...
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:15 AM |
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st@rlight
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in middle-earth aragorn's son, eldarion is gondor's king. he chose to be an elf like her mother...
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:16 AM |
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Rogal Dorn
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Eldarion couldn't choose to be an Elf. Seeing as Aragorn was mortal and Arwen to wed Aragorn chose to be mortal their son must be mortal. Just as when the choice was given to Elros and Elrond, Elros chose to be mortal and thus all those of his line must be mortal. There actually a whole lot that happens during the IV age. The IV age actually begins when Frodo, Bilbo and the keepers of the Three depart over the sea.
V Important Dates in Shire Reckoning
1482 Sam passes over the sea
1484 King Eomer of Rohan, Peregrin Took and Meriadoc Brandybuck die in Gondor they are laid in Rath Dinen among the great of Gondor
1541, March 1st King Elessar dies freely, he bids goodbye to Arwen and passes over the tokens of his rule to his son Eldarion. Legolas builds grey ship in Ithilien and along with Gimli sails down the Anduin and over the sea.
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Oct 12th, 2006 02:45 PM |
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It is never said if Sam made it to the Undying Lands. Same for Legolas and Gimli. One could only guess.
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:14 PM |
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Rogal Dorn
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Yes it is recorded
Look in Appendix B of the LotR the Return of the King page 469 of my book (ISBN 0-261-10237-0) under "Later Events Concerning The Members Of The Fellowship Of The Ring" and its right there all dates are in Shire Reckoning admittedly it doesn't say "Sam passed over the sea, last of the ring bearers and he wasn't hit by a tidal wave of any other freak natural occurrence and actually made it to Valinor" I don't think it needs to it states
"and passed over sea, last of the Ring-bearers" kinda implies he made it same with Legolas and Gimli "and sailed down Anduin and so over sea; and with him, it is said, went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring."
If for somereason they didn't make it across the sea when it states that they meant to pass over then sea, then I think it would state it ie "Sam was to pass over the sea but the boat capsized and as he can't swim he drowned"
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Yet the making of things is in my heart from my own making by thee; and the child of little understanding that makes a play of the deeds of his father may do so without without thought of mockery, but because he is the son of his father.
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:24 PM |
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Damn, I wish Borimir had lived. He was my favourite fellowship member besides Gimli.
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Oct 12th, 2006 11:32 PM |
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st@rlight
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ok...ok...  ...eldarion is a man....
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Oct 13th, 2006 01:05 PM |
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thtadthtshldntb
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Well, I am not one hundred percent sure about whether the choice of the Half-Elven was Eldarion's or not, seeing as how Aragorn did not have that choice (he is a descendent of Elros), even if he did become and elf, unless he passed over the sea rather soon, he would become mortal and die, as in the 4th age, everything outside of Valinor is supposed to become mortal man or something to that extent.
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Among the tales of sorrow and of ruin that come down to us from the darkness of those days there are yet some in which amid weeping there is joy and under the shadow of death light that endures.
J.R.R. Tolkien, "Of Beren and Luthien" from the Silmarilion
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Oct 17th, 2006 11:50 AM |
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Rogal Dorn
Mahal
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Eldarion didn't have the choice, both his parents were mortal they accepted the gift of men, so Eldarion would also have the gift of men.
The gift of men being the gift of death from Eru, the spirits of men pass outside the circles of the world and on to something greater although little is known of what this is.
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Yet the making of things is in my heart from my own making by thee; and the child of little understanding that makes a play of the deeds of his father may do so without without thought of mockery, but because he is the son of his father.
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Oct 17th, 2006 02:51 PM |
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