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Elves: too superior or just as balanced as the other races

what do you think?

at the first look, I agree that elves look to be the superior race in almost any fantasy related context, LOTR, DnD, ADnD, Vampire, Werewolf, Shadow Run.

but after a closer look (mostly RPG related) I always discovered that the elves their advantages are needed to keep their culture alive and that their physical advantages are kept in balance by mental disadvantages...

well maybe ppl can say that I'm an elf lover and that I give a subjectif projection of the elves. but I still believe the elves are as balanced as every other fantasy race


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Elvis is definitely more superior than any other human.


...oh wait..i see. Let me change that.


I find elves to be greater. I see alot of balancing in books, movies, and games, however in reality it's no contest. (reality...heh.) Supposedly for humans, strength and learning rates are greater. Would you trade this for the elven abilities to have greater dexterity, senses, and speed? The rate of elven learning is supposed to be only slightly smaller. How many humans stretch learning to the max anyway?? Most of us are a bunch of lazy bastards.

Halflings on the other hand... oop! time for a new thread!


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elves are far superior to most, in powers. even if their glory days are over and they're soon going away


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lol jay ride I think all fantasy races look (at first look only) superior to humans
but I mean are elves superior to other fantasy races (like half-elves, dwarves, hobbits, halflings, gnomes and so on......)


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i don't consider elves to be superior...All of the species have some strong good point on their side. Elves immortal (almost) therefore more intouch with the world. But mortality is Iluvatar's goft towards men. I see it that way.


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idd smile


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its not only you who see it thatway, its clearly said in the Silmarillion.
but I'm not talking about who lives the best life, but the elves are the most knowledgable, and the wisest.


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and the prettiest.


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quote:
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its not only you who see it thatway, its clearly said in the Silmarillion.


big grin Yes but i didn't get to that part yet rolling on floor laughing
But yes..the elves are wise...and beautiful.......and good fighters. But dwarves also are good fighters and are better with raw materials than elves. Hobbits ....hobbits have something good too somewhere..but i'm too lzy to state it. It's with the humans that have bigger problems. Not in wiseness or looks. But they're psichologically weaker.


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they all have advantages and disadvantages


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yes, but the question is who has more of wich...


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the elves ARE the most powerful, more than dwarves, humans, halflings etc.


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well..it deppends. halflings get rulled out fisically by all the others. Men heal harder and are less resistant. Dwarves are pretty strong. But they can all do wonders in certain.............. territories


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Elves are very much less motivated than humans, is one thing. Much of an Elves power comes from his centuries of life; humans learn a whole lot more in their short time on Middle-Earth compared to the first hundred years of an Elf.


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not less motivated but motivated by different things(nature ect.) smile

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Feanor,Luthien,Felagund all pretty motevated smile

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At what age?


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HuH?

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How old were they when they were doing the actions that showed their motivation?


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I still think they are all well balanced I think ush has a point
it's the same with elves having very good combat skills,
A) elves will try to find another -non combat- way
B) elves in middle earth act like the police force they have to make sure everything remains balanced


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