Anyway, how powerful are Sauron, the other maya and the valor? Can they contend with modern day armies? Superman? Galactus?
I mean, Sauron got defeated by Elendil and Gil-gilad (spelling?), who are powerful and all, but they don't have superpowers or anything. But then some people claim that they can beat Mephisto. What do you think?
Yes, it was the combined effort of Elendil and Gil-Galad that killed Sauron. However he also killed them, as Elendil fell Narsil the sword of the King broke under him. It was then that Isildur took up the remains of his fathers sword and cut the Ring from Sauron's hand.
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I know, but the fact that he got killed by two mortals....well, not really, but you get would I mean..... shows that he isn't on Superman/Galactus level like some people think.
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True, I wouldn't argue that. But Tolkien's idea of power and ability, even what constitues magic isn't as overt as Galactus or Superman, or even Harry Potter. Therefore its very hard to compare cross-context's as each has to be taken within power levels of their own respective universes. Superman is more powerful than Sauron, because he was written to have crazy levels of power.
Compared to anything in Middle-earth besides the Valar, Sauron was really powerful. But outside of that world, everyone has an opinion and its all conjecture really.
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These are such weird comparisons the universes are so different. If I were to pick one I would say the second to last one, but honestly I would not compare them at all.
SAuron is a corrupted angel so he is at the Angel level. As for those who claim he can't defeat SUperman. Bull frickin crap. SUperman is highly vulnerable against magic, and guess who is a mighty sorceror, yep Sauron. HE could also defeat Supes by transforming into a being composed of Kryptonite. And then proceed to maul Supes.
Superman can travel at 99.99% the speed of light and as you know he's pretty strong. Strong enough that his punches while moving at almost light speed would be quite a bit stronger than a sword, even if it's "crafted by the elves long ago". And Superman's pretty accurate too, so he could aim at the finger and punch the ring out before Sauron can react, given that he swings his mace super slow (or at least in the movies). And there's no proof that Sauron can turn into kryptonite. Especially when kryptonite doesn't exist in the LOTR universe and Sauron wouldn't know of Superman's weakness.
__________________ Introduce a little government. Upset the established gangs, and everything becomes order...
Democracy is the very definition of awesome.
Sauron turns into whatever the heck he wants. If he knows Superman's weakness he will use it against him. Plus magic trums Supes nearly every time and Sauron is one of the most proficent sorcorers of MIddle earth.
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How powerful is Sauron truly?
Oct 27th, 2008 07:55 PM
