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glorfindel
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does anybody read anymore?
I have been away a while so now i am back(checks in the mirror) ,yes its me. does any body read any more or we to belive that the films(good as they are) is the only thing to talk about? has anybodt even read the books or are you all lazy and went to see the films(zzzzzz).
I dont mean to offend but a load of posts saying i like the film, have you seen my pictures, is their an extention hidden someware on a dvd is ok but a little boreing in my humble opinion.
lets debate the big questions that realy matter(wipes sweat out of eyes),
if as we are lead to believe arogorn is a decendent of elrond is it realy right that he should marry elronds daughter?? 
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Jun 12th, 2003 08:15 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Descended from Elrond's brother, which would make it at worst marrying a cousin- which is not totally beyond the realms of rightness- and rather irrelevant after a few millenia of descendants...
Meanwhile, I think you will see there is a book vs. film thread on the front page of this area so it's not ALL bad... but do remember this is primarily a movies site.
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Jun 12th, 2003 08:34 PM |
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Ash Nazg
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yup, Ive read the books and in the years since I first read them Ive just finished re-reading them again.
I agree with you in the main, ie that the books have been and will probably always be my fave read, and to a degree I much prefer them to the films as the images you can conjour in your own mind, much beat the screen imagery - though I have to admit, 5.1 surround sound is a welcome bonus which doesnt happen in my head. Saying that, I have enjoyed the films imensly and they are now ranked second, behind only the Star Wars OT (the PT's come much further down the list - sorry Mr Lucas...).
The books provide a much wider and in depth story line than the films could realistically do, unless they were each about 10 hours long. Jackson has done extremely well condensing them the way he has. The mythology and the back stories told in the likes of the Sil could never be made into a film and so I class them as pretty integral (if not somewhat daunting and challenging) read to help expand the LOTR war of the ring storyline.
As for the question about Aragorn being related to Elrond....have to admit, Im a bit stumped there, I honestly cant remember if he is so I'll have to check on that one. Are you certain?
Anyways, even if she is, I mean, what the hell, she's one hot babe. Who cares, shes worth commiting incest for I think!
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Jun 12th, 2003 08:45 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Yes, Aragorn HAS tpo be related to Elrond as he is a Dunadan and all Dunadan come from the line started by Elrond's brother Elros.
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Jun 12th, 2003 08:59 PM |
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Ash Nazg
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ah right, of course. Thank you Mr Ushgarak!
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Jun 12th, 2003 09:05 PM |
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turin
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well i read the books on a yearly basis and absolutely love them. I also love the films being brought to life. as far as it being wierd sick or wrong that arwen and aragorn hookin it up, well they are distant enough that it would be the same for pretty much every couple.
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Jun 12th, 2003 09:11 PM |
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I read them occassionally. I recently finished The Hobbit, and I froze at a Knife in the Dark on FOTR.
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Jun 12th, 2003 11:28 PM |
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billyboyd4ever
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yea, i read them a lot, i just finished the silmarillion and am on my third time at the trilogy, plus ive read the hobbit, and am trying to find the adventures of tom bombadil
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Jun 13th, 2003 02:05 AM |
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coolboarder98
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Remember Tolkien created LOTR as his own mythology. So if you've ever read Greek and Roman mythology, the Gods married their siblings(i.e. Zeus and Hera).
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Jun 13th, 2003 11:33 AM |
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Evy_O
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The books were great, I agree. But maybe people talk about the movies 'cause they've talked about the books *a lot* 'till now... And the movies are something new.
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Jun 13th, 2003 12:50 PM |
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Excalibur
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i read this books as often as i can! they“re absolutely different to the movies!! the movies are very well (my favourit ones) but the books are a bible!!!!! jk. but the book are perfect!
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Jun 13th, 2003 12:55 PM |
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mah
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Yah; I read them about once a year. I try to at least. Read Silmarillion twice, reading history of middle-earth books...those take up quite some time though.
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Jun 13th, 2003 12:59 PM |
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turin
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yes the history of middle earth series is tuff to read, and usually it takes me a long time to finish one. i am working on treason if isengard i think it is #8 and i hate how it goes back and starts at the begining of shadow of the past. makes it tought to read when you are reading the same thing over and over with onyl minor differences.
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Jun 13th, 2003 02:42 PM |
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glorfindel
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Glad to hear(read) that the art of opening a book has not been lost.
I feel the point with arogorn getting it off with his relative is to reinforce his title to the thrown of gondor, after all i surpose that most of the royal familyies in europe are interbred.
Also if the fourth age was to become the age of man how come elrond managed to get his grand children as the heads of state as soon as arogorn dies they all take over hmmmmm.
was this his idear all along? (pretty far fetched but a point).
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Jun 13th, 2003 05:21 PM |
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turin
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well Aragorn is full blooded man and is only related to Elrond by being a greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat
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nephew, i probably missed a few greats there. plus Arwen chose mortality hence so did her children, which kind of makes them man, or close to. so the age of man is being kicked off by basically the greatest of Men. Plus I would garuntee that Elrond would have preferred Arwen to return with him as aposed to political posturing.
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Jun 13th, 2003 05:34 PM |
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glorfindel
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yes ithink you are right...........you did miss agreat or two out
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Jun 13th, 2003 05:39 PM |
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glorfindel
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we all want the most for our children so what does she get in aman? just another elf child . where as now she is a queen
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Jun 13th, 2003 05:41 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Can't stay long though, can they? As Elrond describes his kids will become mortal if they stay in Middle-Earth
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Jun 13th, 2003 05:43 PM |
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turin
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plus in aman she would live forever in basically a heaven type setting. how would you feel if you were elrond when all of you children stay, that would suck, atleast he will be reunited with his wife.
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Jun 13th, 2003 06:33 PM |
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glorfindel
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trust me heavan is a life away from the kids........
anyway he can always have some more, and when she dies will she go to the elven after life or human???
elrond could visit her in the halls of mandos
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Jun 13th, 2003 07:46 PM |
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