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Darth Ninja
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Mace Windu SUCKS!
Mace Windu SUCKS! He SUCKS! I want him to get killed in Episode 2 right away. He is so overated as a Jedi Master it makes me sick to my stomach. I'm am sick and tired of hearing these "superjedi" stories about how "Mace is invincible with a lightsaber" and "If you get within three feet of Mace with a lightsaber, you're dead." NO ONE is invincible with a lightsaber. Darth Maul would killed Mace Windu in a one-on-one duel. These Mace Windu hype is so phony. I've studied sword fighting, staff fighting, and many other weapon forms and martial arts. Lightsaber fighting is just like sword fighting. Miyamoto Muashi got defeated (but not killed) by a jo staff (4 foot staff) fighter. One mistake is usually fatal. Just wait and see, Mace will get killed and will LMAO.
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Apr 14th, 2001 09:08 PM |
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Ratcat
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How can you make that statement. It may be true, but until we actually see him do something more than sit in a chair with his fingers steepled it is a bit hard to say what kind of a fighter he is.
You may be right, but I think everyone should be given a chance before we right them off completely.
IMHO OC.
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Apr 14th, 2001 10:20 PM |
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Darth Daft
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: London, UK
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Agreed. You can't judge something/someone you know nothing about.
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Apr 14th, 2001 10:53 PM |
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Raz
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From whats seen in the storyboards, his role should be most interesting this time.
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Apr 14th, 2001 11:16 PM |
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JediOasis
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Born on a Different Cloud
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I think that Mace will be the best Jedi that we have seen. He seems to have this noble quality about him. I think he will be a big hero in EP III when he saves Yoda and possibly Obi-Wan by facing Anakin or Palpatine in a duel and saying that he is the last of the Jedi. Plus, Sam Jackson is a bad you know what 
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Apr 14th, 2001 11:21 PM |
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Ushgarak
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The statement 'Darth Maul would kill Windu' is very odd. they are both swrod masters; they should be equally matched, yeah? At least Windu uses a proper weapon (mind you, that's style over realism for you...).
But yes, he has to go down eventually, and like you say it only takes one mistake...
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Apr 14th, 2001 11:33 PM |
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Dim
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Southern California
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Yes, he will fall eventually...but I think we'll see a much more dynamic and intersting Mace in the next film...Hopefully he's not the only one we'll see in action.
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Apr 15th, 2001 06:51 PM |
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Ratcat
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Well, I know SLJ is a big Star wars fan but I doubt he'd do Star wars just to get killed off easily.
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Apr 15th, 2001 07:02 PM |
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Xizor
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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Colorado
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Although I disagree with that statement, I do look forward to Mace's death(It has the makings of a great cinematic battle) more than anything else involving him. Maul if you remember was an apprentice, who got killed by an apprentice in OB1, I'm sure it would have been a gret fight but Mace would have been able to handle the late sith.
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Apr 16th, 2001 01:54 AM |
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Raz
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Also from whats known, Windu won't be killed off until Ep3.
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Apr 16th, 2001 06:17 PM |
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Darth Ninja
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Darth Maul held his own against BOTH Qui-Gon AND Obi-Wan. Maul died because he got stupid at the end. The Episode 1 novel said Qui-Gon was one of the best swordsfighters his master had seen in over 400 years. Yet Maul still killed him (unfortunately). I'm sure Mace would have lost against Darth Maul in a one-on-one fight, because he couldn't been better than Qui-Gon AND Obi-Wan TOGETHER.
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Apr 16th, 2001 06:37 PM |
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Darth Pants
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: England
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People have to bear in mind that much of what kept Qui Gon from being on the council was his cheeky antics. There's nothing to say he's not Mace Windu's equal with a lightsabre. Many are expecting Mace to be a lightsabre God, he's bound to disappoint some. I think he'll come into his own in big group fights, specifically, taking on loads of droids (where ILM can build the action around him). The way people think he's going to be, even the most highly trained martial artists could not bring to the screen. Everyone should forget the sources which said he was invincible with a lightsabre, accept that he has a decent knowledge of how to fight, and understand that it was more than swinging a weapon around that got him on the council. His character will be far more impressive in 2002 that way. Oh, and I think Anakin will kill him in Episode 3. Whoever on these boards said he would let Yoda escape to train one of the twins may be onto something. It would be a moving scene if he gave his life in one last battle with the most powerful Sith in order to allow balance to be brought to the Force, and the most noble death for a Jedi Council member.
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Apr 16th, 2001 09:01 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKModerator
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DM was clearly fighting defensive for most of TPM... look at him, ALWAYS bascking away, giving ground, twirling to see what was behind... he knew he couldn't fight both of those people and hope to kill them, so he played defensive and waited his chance. And it worked...
A duel with Maul would have been a very different thing.
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Apr 16th, 2001 09:56 PM |
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Darth Ninja
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The TPM novel said that Maul appeared to be on the defensive, when in fact he was controlling the battle and choosing the areas he wanted to fight in.
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Apr 17th, 2001 01:01 PM |
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Gundark
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Registered: Oct 2000
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I personally like SLJ and I think we will see his role greatly expanded in ep2. His looks and stature project that of a Jedi that fans have come to expect. I will hate to see him die, but if it comes as the ultimate sacrifice for the life of Luke and or Leia, it would be an honorable one.
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Apr 17th, 2001 01:21 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UKModerator
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DN- that line in the TPM novel made NO sense, because what it described IS fighting defensive! You don't go on the defensive just for the hell of it, because you will lose sooner or later. You do it for a purpose- in this case to get the others where he wanted them. He wasn't making any kill blows during much of the fight, and that certainl;y makes him defensive.
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Apr 17th, 2001 06:08 PM |
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Darth Pants
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: England
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I suppose 'appearing to be on the run' would have been more appropriate than 'appearing to be on the defensive', as it would suggest panic and poorly planned manouvers. I thought the novel was great overall, giving us more of an insight into the characters' feelings and the scenes which were cut from the movie (Greedo vs Anakin, Darth Maul's plummet). Went on about bloody "Sand Panthers" like they were the only creatures in existence though.
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Apr 17th, 2001 09:43 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Yeah- good points all around. You can never translate sabre fights like that to book form, though.
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Apr 17th, 2001 09:58 PM |
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finti
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Qui-Gon was a lot older than Maul, as stated in the novel, he was showing signs of fatigue when Maul killed him. Qui-gon was also fuzzed by the knock in his face, and the second he was stunned was all Maul nedded. Mace on the other hand is a different story, we have to see him fight before we can judge his fighting skill, but there is areason he is a master though.
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Apr 18th, 2001 06:50 AM |
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Darth Ninja
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Exactly! So why is everyone making Mace Windu out to be Superjedi?! That is totally stupid.
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