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escaping vader's grips

we all know that when anakin turns and becomes vader,he kills off all the remaining jedi except for yoda and obie wan

why is that?

why do you think that they were the only two to get away

everybody thinks the jedi are extinct and that vader is the only one left in ANH

does vader spare their lives?

does vader think they're dead??

do they flee and vader just gives up??

if i can remember correctly,vader says somethin like the last time he got "that" feeling was in the presence of his master. so does that mean the last time they saw each other was when they fought?

in ANH vader says ,"i've been waiting for you,obie-wan.we meet again at last"

does that mean that vader never got the chance to kill off obie until ANH?

if so,then why did he stop looking for him??

and what about yoda?

any thoughts??


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They escaped and he could not find them. Simple as that. And the Empire forgot about them.

"Obi-Wan? Surely he must be dead by now." Whether they found them or not, the Empire (who did the killing- Vader only helped) considered the Jedi extinct.


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ahhh,thanks for the answers ush


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But I don't think Vader ever believed Obi-Wan truly dead- he certainly did not seem THAT surprised.


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Yeah, he was waiting for him, to kill him. Plus I was reading one of the EU novels and it said something about Dagobah being able to hide Yoda or something like that anyway. Something to do with Dagobah and the force.


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The Dark-Side cave.


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That's probably it. So do you think Yoda was hidden??


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Yes


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jedi have the ability to go unnoticed among crowds of people. obi wan used that ability to make himself undetectable on tattoine. yoda chose dagobah because it was rich with life, making any efort vader made to find him futile.


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Thanx Lance, RJ thumb up
Referring to what you said RJ, is that why Dooku didn't "sense" Obi-Wan while he was on Genosis?? I mean he walked straight past him. I thought Jedi could sense each other??


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According to EU, you can pull the force in and not get detected.


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Or just that Yoda picked a remote uncivilised planet that nobody would give a second thought

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And the EU version of the cave says it hid Yoda's presensce because of so much Dark Side power.


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I have never thought it unreasonable that a Jedi can clam his mind to make it harder to sense.

But more to the point, Dooku wasn't trying to sense anything- I think that counts for a lot. I do not think it is ALWAYS on, even though Jedi can be very instinctual.


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Question

I wonder what pressing matters Vader had to deal with, that despite the "ultimate fight scenes" we have envisioned between master and his apprentice, would let him go... Did he finally learn patience? stick out tongue


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I guess so. In Ep2, Anakin's EXTREMELY impatient laughing


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I have a feeling he knew the time would come for him to have a final face off with Obi Wan


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Yeah, he was waiting for him...


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About Yoda being on Dagobah...

1. He killed a Dark Jedi on Dagobah once, and the power of the Dark-Side can cloud many things. Yoda took advantage of it.

2. Dagobah was too remote for anyone to care about it. In EU, only a few expedition crews were sent there. The first was killed off by the creatures that lived there, and the second got to live with the memory of meeting the elusive Yoda.

3. Lots of life forms, meaning more things to sift through.


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That first point is EU of course.


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