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Who exactly is Palpatine? (theories welcome)
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Darth Jello
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Who exactly is Palpatine? (theories welcome)

Ok, so i guess nothing on this board can ever be considered a spoiler because I doubt Lucas will ever officially reveal exactly who his evil creation is.

So with that in mind, the purpose of this is for everyone to offer their speculation on who palpatine is, where he came from and what made him what he is.
i agree with several people who think that he was a residet of naboo who was identified by the jedi as having a midichlorian count nearly as high as yoda's. his parents loved him so much that they refused to hand him over. as a child he admired the jedi and longed to be one. resenting his parents for their decision, he asked the council to have him with their reluctant permission. he was rejected by the jedi council because of his age and his great anger at his parents. At this time he was discovered by a Sith, either on coruscant or naboo. the rest we pretty much know.

What are your theories?

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VengeanceGOD
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Young boy on Naboo is right, but I'm guessing he was missed by the Jedi. Otherwise they would have known that their Supreme Chancellor had massive potential in the force. He probably had some hugely tramatic event as a child, turning him completely to the dark, after which he was discovered by a Sith master looking for an apprentice.

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finti
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as for the film forums we dont know too much about Palpatine besides that he was the senator representing Naboo. The rest of it is EU info and belongs in the EU section

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yerssot
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pfff! if the jedi knew about him they would never let him be a politician, certainly not an emperor like in AOTC, they're not stupid, they know they should pay attention to this, certainly after the sith returning!

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Swordfish2k0
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Perhaps even as a child Paplatine was so powerful he could cloud his existence from the Jedi

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yerssot
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so... a child already had plans to kill off all the jedi, get one to do all his dirty work and become an emperor?
at what? the age of 4?

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Swordfish2k0
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Hey! Lay off it ok!....no i simply thought he may be able to cloud himself from the jedi that doesn't mean he was evil or had any mass plans for the jedi, even at a young age he may have decided he didn't want to be a jedi and was able to hide himself from them....

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yerssot
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easy there, I wasn't bashing you or anything, just poking some fun smile

well, biggest point is that he still had to get his sith training and therefor the jedi for some reason didn't saw him or something
but I doubt that as a kid he already had the power to conceil himself
the jedi just can't check every plan once a year for new members and such

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Swordfish2k0
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Yeah true enough i see your point. Maybe at a young age he was identified by the Sith and trained whilst he was young. So maybe the Sith disguised him from the Jedi, any way its unlikely that the Jedi could sense every force user in the Galaxy!

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finti
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quote:
any way its unlikely that the Jedi could sense every force user in the Galaxy!
in which Anakin is a prime example

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imhotep
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But a Sith lord, strolling around in Naboo just seems a little far fetched.
I go with him being powerfull with the force, and after researching Jedi/Sith history he was tempted by the Dark Side. Rmember, if the Sith were wiped out, there would be a serious unbalance in the force. I think the Dark Side reached him first


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He was trained by the Sith Master before him, that's all we know.


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exactly

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imhotep
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We do NOT know that...We assume that...
You want to hear my opinion on assumptions??

The truth is, there is no need to know where he comes from, he comes from GL imagination. There has to be a point in a fictional story where you stop digging and just take things as they are given you.

We are not exactly discussing HIstory here, in the end, itīs just a movie...

I'm sorry, but I really feel like shit today!


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mephistodesigns
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I agree totally. We don't really need to know. Its not neccessary to the plot. We know for certain that the last Sith Lord killed him. Beyond that are endless possibilities of how that came to be.


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mephistodesigns
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I'm sorry, let me type that the right way...

We know for certain the last Sith Lord FOUND him.

weird typo...


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quote:
Originally posted by imhotep
We do NOT know that...

we DO know that he was trained and picked by a sith lord!
"Always two there are, a master and an apprentice"
and he became the master later on, and picked his first apprentice

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mephistodesigns
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and that's really all the pertenant information we recquire isn't it? I mean, I'm all for digging into these films, but thats one area that I thing is meant to just be comprehended by understanding the rule of the Sith, as Yerssot pointed out.


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Darth Jello
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keep in mind that he can cloud people's perceptions of him, he may be much much older than we think


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quote:
Originally posted by yerssot
so... a child already had plans to kill off all the jedi, get one to do all his dirty work and become an emperor?
at what? the age of 4?



Well it was said that he was ambitious stick out tongue


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