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bigsef3
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Sideous' Origins

Anyone ever wonder where Sideous came from? We know Sideous is Palpatine, the former Senator for Naboo, so that would mean he grew up and lived on Naboo, likely got involved in politics, and worked his way up to become a senator....

But at what point did he become a Sith Lord? Before or after he became a Senator? Was he a Sith his whole life growing up on Naboo, and then got involved in politics as a means of getting in power and annihilating the Jedi? Or was he in politics, and then became a Sith, because this would help him in his plan to become Emperor?

Which came first, the Sith or the politician? Is there any truth to the old rumor he was 3000 years old?

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I think a sith first, and that to get the power he went into politics to maneuver things around

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The One Part 2
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I don't think he grew up on Naboo. It would be unusual for the Jedi to miss him on a planet like that. I believe he was born and raised on another planet, studied the Sith code, and came to Naboo as an adult. This plan to conquer the universe probably started at a young age, evolved over many decades, and included becoming a senator. I'm sure somebody will write about it after 2005.

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bigsef3
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Palpatine HAS to be Nabooian or whatever you want to call it. He is their senator and represents their people to the republic. Granted, within the US, senators did not always grow up in the states they represent, but we are talking about whole planets, here. Whether Palpatine spent his entire life on Naboo is not necessarily relevant. But he definately is Nabooian.

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when dooku says that "ten thousands star systems are rallying to their course" or what ever, and you than look at the senate, of those star systems had all only 1 representative (so, not one per planet) the senate would still not be big enough

so I think it's save to say that some senators are representatives of more than one star system

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Where did Sidious come from???

Not sure if this has been asked before, or if im posting it in the right place but, somethings been bugging me for a while..... Where did Sidious come from? I mean, we learn in EP1 the the sith had been extinct for a thousand years or whatever, so..... where did he come from? Who trained him? How did he become a Sith? Will this be answered in EPIII? He cant have just popped out of nothingness! Can he? Is Sith Holocrons the answer? If so, i feel thats a bit of a cop out. Anyone else wondered this? And has anyone got any thoughts?


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Darth Bane survived and the sith have been hiding and manipulating events to get revenge for a thousand years. Palpatine/Sidious just puts those plans into completion


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Keep in mind that this is firmly EU, and take it as such.

Now, we have no idea when exactly the Sith Academy on Korriban was or stopped turning out sith. In the same vein, we have no idea how old Sidious is. It's possible he could've trained there.

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Darth Bane and the final sith conflict were lucas' ideas.


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he can hide himself in the force, the sith got to him before the jedi.


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huh? No, I meant my idea, not yours, was EU.

Perhaps these two threads should be merged?

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Who the hell is Darth Bane


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I don't think Palpatine HAS to be Nabooian. He very well could have lived there most of his life, though. If he is, please explain how Naboo that is in deep with the Republic could have a force sensitive like Palpatine without the Jedi knowing. And if the Sith found him first, I would think that Naboo of the Republic would report a Sith presence on the planet. It's not like they could just walk in and take him without someone noticing. You have to remember that the only reason Anakin wasn't noticed by the Jedi was that Tatooine had no Republic presence.

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Naboo is a planet. its BIG, and if Palpatine can mask himself from the jedi right under their noses, i dont think hed have a problem on another planet.

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this sith that lived a millenia ago, got mentioned briefly in the epI novel

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Basically this guy named Lord Kaan united the sith for one last stand against the Jedi. The Jedi master Hoth and his army of light fought a huge battle with the sith in which the sith massacred each other as much as the jedi did. Through this time, Darth Bane, a sithlord opposed to kaan started realizing how stupid the sith really were. he realized that in its nature, the dark side creates greed and lust for power. He then knew the battle was lost and escaped before something called a "thought bomb" wiped out both armies. As the last dark lord, bane created the new sith order, declaring that there shall only be two Sith at a time, that all Sith lords shall create an identity for themselves with Darth as a title in his honor, and laid the groundwork for the revenge of the sith, a massive plot which eventually led to the rise of the empire. How Yoda knows about the law of two is still a mystery, but if i'm not mistaken, Insider said that the Jedi owned several writings atributed to Bane. guess they just assumed that no Sith lived to restart the order.


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I am still awaiting evidence that Bane was a Lucas idea. It is still EU.

Incidentally, there is a thread on this on the same page so I shall merge them...


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he was in the original episode 1 script as backstory


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Can you show me something that demonstrates that?


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Jello, if you have a copy of that script, please post it. I'd really like to read that.

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