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Was Anakin created by the Midichlorians?
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Question Was Anakin created by the Midichlorians?

That's something I've been wondering. Maybe it's just that I'm not well informed, but did Shmi tell the truth to Qui-gon in Ep1 when he asked her about Anakin's father or she just said it to avoid further questions?

I read somewhere that The Force created him as a kind of "Challenge" to the Jedi, to see if they would be tempted to make him a Knight, even though he was too old. Is there an answer for my question?


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anakin wasn't created by the midichlorians, he was created by the force, those two things are NOT the same

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Though QGJ says he was conceived by them.

We have no reason to think this is not true but without more on the Prophecy it is hard to be certain.


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he said it was possible, not that it was 100% so
I don't think the midichlorians can do it, I think the force can do it though

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Obviously they can do it else QGJ would not have raised the possibility- it was that line that brought up the Prophecy, after all.

The midi-chlorians are biological, it is entirely feasible.


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quote:
Originally posted by yerssot
anakin wasn't created by the midichlorians, he was created by the force, those two things are NOT the same


Yes, you're right, that's what I tried to mean, thanks. thumb up


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Well, I think as far as we can tell that he WAS conceived by the midi-chlorians. That is certainly what QGJ thinks and it is strongly hinted that is what the Prophecy refers to also.


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but no one knows what exactly is in the prophecy to start with

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I think that the prophecy is the first intro to star wars, from journal of the whills. the one about the "son of the suns"


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Well, that shows that Prophecy was always on GL's mind, but a whole lot of things have changed since then. When he wrote that, Anakin and Vader were seperate characters, for a start.


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yeah, but everything falls into place


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hana_skywalker
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The Prophecy you're talking about is the one that says that Anakin will bring balance to the Force? Does it say something else?


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from the third draft of star wars:

"... and in the time of greatest despair,
there shall come a savior, and he shall
be known as The Son of The Suns."


Journal of the Whills, 3:127

keep in mind that in almost every religion, the sun represents God or benevolent divinity. Further indication that in the Star Wars storyline, Anakin is the equivelant of this worlds predicted Christ.


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and keep in mind that it was on a draft and the story has in the mean time changed so much

so, no canon imho

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Darth Jello
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again yerssot, this isn't a question of canon


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it is, it was in a draft and did not return later on, so what you wrote can not be considered as the one phrophecy just something that once GL thought about

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I was watching TPM last night and, on a side note, the more i learn about EPIII, the more i appreciate what Lucas did in TPM and AOTC. They really arent as "great" as they could have been on their own, but they are still EXCELLENT MOVIES and will ultimately blend with the original trilogy alot better than i had feared.

Anyway, TPM clearly states that it is "possible anakin was conceived by the midichlorians." We had never heard of midichlorians before TPM. there was absolutley NO REASON for GL to introduce the midichlorians in TPM and state that possibility if it were not fact.

GL raised the "possibility" because that is the truth. Anakin has no "father." He WAS conceived by the midichlorians

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Agreed.


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quote:
Originally posted by Darth Jello
keep in mind that in almost every religion, the sun represents God or benevolent divinity. Further indication that in the Star Wars storyline, Anakin is the equivelant of this worlds predicted Christ.


This is clumsily emphasised by the reference to divine (or) immaculate conception.

Jesus was concieved by the holy ghost, Anakin was conceived by the midichlorians.

Same tale, different viewpoint. There is nothing new in the galaxy!

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As has been stated several hundredd times, that was NOT a biblical reference but a mythological one- the child of the Gods.


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