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What does Darth Vader actually mean
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ash007
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What does Darth Vader actually mean

What does Darth Vader actually mean

does anyone know


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marshall_vox
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Good question. But I have no idea either. Hopefully it will be explained in Episode III.

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Altar[1stONE]
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Something that has to do with invading or invader, which would make sense to me being a commander of the empire and invading rebel armys.


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finti
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rumors have it that Vader is dutch for father

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Mr.Deflok
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Yeah, back in the day I remember Dark (Darth) Father (Vader) being a translation that was thrown around.


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quote:
Originally posted by finti
rumors have it that Vader is dutch for father

*wants to thwack finti... realises that's a bad thing to do*

darth is from: DARk lord of the SiTH
but I'm not sure where I got that one from again :s


YES, I can say with 100% certainty that the rumor of Vader being dutch for father is true roll eyes (sarcastic)

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deaconbluez
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Ahhh...many close answers...."Darth" means "Shadow Warrior" and "Vader", like mentioned, is Dutch for "Father".

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Arise lord Darth Vader,

The name Vader has been chosen from a little know dialect called Dutch on a planet called earth in a galaxy far far away.

Yup that will work when sidious explains the name to Vader in ep3


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yerssot
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djee, people, do you really need to mention it everytime? I take everyone who visits this section knows by now that vader is dutch for father!

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ash007
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indeed

i still dont think so about Vader


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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

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Yup, Vader is Dutch for father, though our once resident Dutch man queeq always doubted that this was in any way intentional.

After all, when Vader was named, he was not the father of anyone important.


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yerssot
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yup, the idea of him being luke's father was around making ESB, if I'm not mistaken?

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Yes. GL may have been toying with the idea beforehand, of course- hard to know- but at the point he invented Vader, Anakin (then spelt Annikin, and surnamed Starkiller) was a completely seperate character in the story, who was eventually written out by the time the film was finished as already dead by Vader's hands.

Which gave GL a neat twist he could use for ESB- by not having used Anakin, he could make him and Vader the same person.


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ash007
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intresting wink


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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill

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xeous
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That's total luck or total genious.


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cornponious
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Actually, I heard Vader is Dutch for "father".


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finti
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does any one know the Dutch word for morons stick out tongue

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yerssot
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that would be "idioten" roll eyes (sarcastic)

are you sure corn??? I mean, that Vader being dutch was said only five times messed and only two dutch-speaking members have said it was true

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Ushgarak
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It could well be luck indeed that this happened. Actually, in the early drafts of the first film, Vader was far more like Maul- a dangerous thug who is killed off at the end.

Vader's graduation to greatest screen villain of all time kind of evolved over the years!


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quote:
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yup, Vader is Dutch for father, though our once resident Dutch man queeq always doubted that this was in any way intentional.

After all, when Vader was named, he was not the father of anyone important.


There is also a question of pronunciation.

The Dutch word is pronounced "var-der" to rhyme with "father".

The name in question as we know is pronounced "Vay-der"; thus making the father-link even less likely.

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