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Cowboyography
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What will vader think

I know nothing is for sure but what do you think Vader will know at the end of Ep 3? For instance will he believe that Yoda and Ob1 are still alive? What will convince him they are dead? ALso I read somewhere that he will know Padme had twins, but not sure. Also will Palp know more than vader? By that I mean will palp know of Yoda and Obi1's hiding?

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I'm sure he'll definitely know that Yoda and Obi-Wan are alive, but are hiding.


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he knows about OB1 yes, but Yoda?

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darktim1
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he'll probibley feel obi-wan presence in the force just like in episode4 when he was on the death star 1. The thing I wonder is if he is going to remember or ask about padame after he becomes darth and I know that the voice will be changed.

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I believe they would have to think Yoda was dead. To let the leader of the Jedi get away would be failure it would seem.


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tony_bolony
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'Obi-Wan has taught you well.'
Sounds like Vader doesn't even consider the fact that Yoda could be still around.

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now way dude.
according to vader. yoda is dead. he never even mentions yoda.
"he's just a boy...obiwan can no longer help him"

palps probably thinks he killed yoda.
i imagine we will see yoda escape him by the skin of his teeth.

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Well, i kind of have a feeling that all the jedi won't be dead at the end of RotS. I don't think that GL will have killed of every single jedi, besides yoda and obi wan, at the end of episode 3. Ya know we've got like 20 years in between the pt and ot and i'm thinking that, in that time, vader will be hunting down and killing all the remaining jedi. And i'm not sure if vader will know about yoda or not, maybe GL didn't ever have a plan of yoda being so high up at the time he made the ot, so maybe GL thought anakin and palpatine weren't going to know who yoda was. Who knows, but i'm sure GL will make sense out of this matter.


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I think he will know Obi Wan is alive and believe he has one male child... but I still don't know about Yoda... Im leaning towards them beleiving he is dead somehow.

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The Empire, in ANH, generally assumes all the Jedi are dead, either from theve events of Episode III or what followed. Tarkin is surprised when Vader voices an objection- but not so surprised that he refuses to believe it.

We know from Yoda that only he and Obi-Wan made it, so I think the answer is simply that the Empire, and so Vader, is pretty sure it accounted for the lot of them. Vader thinks different once he feels Obi-Wan's presence again- the possiblity may have occurred to him before but I doubt Vader was actively thinking all these years "You know, I don't think we killed Obi-Wan?"


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Yeah it doesnt make sense to kill all the Jedi ecxept for the two most powerful of them all and be content.


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quote:
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Yeah it doesnt make sense to kill all the Jedi ecxept for the two most powerful of them all and be content.


well they got mace and he was #2


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Ken Benobi
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laughing out loud Yoda and Obi-Wan found themselves in the classical Sith role "always two there are...no more no less..." .......unless you count Vader, who later proved himself....


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but by the time vadar proved himself
yoda and obi 1 were dead and it was just vadar and luke and then it was luke and leia so
two there are no more no less


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captainmidnight
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i think after vader confronts ben and kills him (so to speak) he says something on the lines of referring to the death star and seeing the end of kenobi,it will be a long day remembered,it would assume he believes yoda is dead,and since there were only 2 jedi left,being yoda and obi-wan,they pose no real threat to the empire anyway right...

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quote:
Originally posted by tony_bolony
'Obi-Wan has taught you well.'
Sounds like Vader doesn't even consider the fact that Yoda could be still around.


I agree...but still, their ultimate goal is the ultimate extinction of the Jedi, so you'd think if they knew, they'd go after him...

...and how'd they find the Jedi underlings? Using the force? If so, how did that shield Obi and Yoda?


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Darth_Duffy
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i cant recall any evidence of the force being used to establish somebodies whereabouts unless they are fairly nearby, correct me if im wrong of course

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Ken Benobi
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good point, (Spearhead) I have wondered about that too


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I think it can be assumed that Palp and Vader both are under the impression that they have wiped the entire Jedi order out. If you remember in ANH Vader says " I sense a presence I have not felt....." He is bewildered at the fact it's even there.


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