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Can Palpatine be turned?
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Question Can Palpatine be turned?

Yeah ok I ripped this thread off of TFN, but it's a fairly new concept (I think) and we are getting desperate for spoilers. messed

Does anyone think its possible to turn Palpatine back to the light side? FI so, who would have the power or influence to do it? Was he ever even ON the light side? Assuming he's human he had to have been there to begin with one would think. And whil Im at it, Im wondering just what it was that made him chose the dark side? Discuss...

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I reckon Qui Gon Jinn can only turn him to the light side.


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Are being serious? I find that a little hard to believe seeing as he's rather dead.

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JP, this is madness. Get your head out of the hypothetical clouds.

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It's a hypothetical question boys and requires you to think 3 dimensionally. stick out tongue

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What if he was never to the light.


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Ive wondered that, but that would mean he was never human wouldnt it?

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I dont know, but if Lucas is using Anakin as a kind of quasi Jesus figure perhaps Palpatine represents the devil.


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He probably started out as a neutral person and was introduced to the darkside. He's probably been with the darkside so long that it's all he knows.


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Morridini
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I think it would be possible to turn him back, only very hard. In fact so hard that it would seem impossible, but everything is possible if u ask me. Unfortunately we will never know as we know how his life ends (if not the EU steps in and does something)


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Ah but who has the power to turn him back? He hates Yoda & Mace.

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Palpatine IS the Dark Side; He IS Evil. He can never be turned to the Light Side. Without Palpy, there is no evil in the galaxy and well, sadly, good and evil must exist for the universe to exist, otherwise BOOM!! the universe implodes on itself. And that would suck very much for us.

The only person who could turn him back would have to be someone, from his past for whom he cared for very much, for whom he probably lost in a horrific situation, prolly caused by the Jedi. That is prolly why he wanted revenge against them.


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Nononononononononono.

No.

No.

No.

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Absolutely not. NO revolving door policy. Anakin is the ONLY exception, and that is plot culmination of the whole of the entire story, the one-off totally impossible thing that happened because he is the centre of the whole piece, and even he died in the process.

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Well Yoda was wrong about Anakin, so why not anyone else? If it forever dominates your destiny, then why did Vader go back? I think that as strong and powerful as Palps is, he's still weak minded to the force. I think the darkside actually controls him and wont let him be turned. From what ive heard, Palps was "bought" from his parents by a great Sith lord, after the Jedi tried to take him. His parents said no casue they had no money and werent about to give up their son. And when the sith lord came along, he tried sayin that the Jedi were kidnappers and gave his parents a lot of money, and thats why they agreed to let him take Palps.,...to eventually get even with the Jedi. BUT, i think if he were to talk with his parents or someone like that(who is prolly dead by now) they may be able to swerve him to the lightside...but no other way.


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quote:
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Well Yoda was wrong about Anakin, so why not anyone else? If it forever dominates your destiny, then why did Vader go back? I think that as strong and powerful as Palps is, he's still weak minded to the force. I think the darkside actually controls him and wont let him be turned. From what ive heard, Palps was "bought" from his parents by a great Sith lord, after the Jedi tried to take him. His parents said no casue they had no money and werent about to give up their son. And when the sith lord came along, he tried sayin that the Jedi were kidnappers and gave his parents a lot of money, and thats why they agreed to let him take Palps.,...to eventually get even with the Jedi. BUT, i think if he were to talk with his parents or someone like that(who is prolly dead by now) they may be able to swerve him to the lightside...but no other way.


Except for that parents thing. This brings up a good point. Perhaps Count Dooku has no choice in losing to Anakin. He is commanded by Palpatine to fight him and he cannot go against his master.


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Now see Palpatine cant have been forever evil as apparently he is human native of Naboo, and somehow I doubt he was born this evil. And what I wonder caused him to turn to the dark side?

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The big question for me is, "How long has he been with the dark side?"

I mean, the question is : Exactly how old is Palpatine? Perhaps the answer to that question could reveal how he came to the dark side.

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I'd like that answer as well. yes

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Wouldn't we all?


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