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southtownbluz
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Midicholorians: A second look at Episode 3??
Heya, my first thread and I want your opinions.
I've thought much over the choice of including a description of a biological explanation of the force. Clearly, most people (myself included) were happy enough knowing that it was there. Period. All it required was faith and it made it much more mystical that way.
But "microscopic lifeforms inside our cells, etc. etc." What was all that about. So I started to think.
Palpatine looks disfigured and I've always thought that it was a result of the darkside of the force. Anakin in the new trailer (maybe it was just my tv guys) looked as though his skin was a bit pale, heading towards that skin color of the emperor. His eyes have obviously undergone a genetic change. So perhaps this was a clever description laid down as foreshadow of some explanations that would take place in Episode 3 by Sidious. Perhaps it will be further explained, or perhaps Qui-gon's statements were explanation enough. But I think that has a great deal to do with the physical changes perceived through the realization of the Darkside. It's interesting that among these lifeforms exist darker lifeforms or perhaps there are biological or psychic implications that these lifeforms can be altered, hence "Unnatural".
Think about it. Food for thought.
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:32 PM |
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The Rover
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Hmm.
Interesting.
And this isn't a worthless thread, too. Good job! 
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:34 PM |
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BAILY
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Interesting take indeed.. me likey
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:39 PM |
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Hazardous
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Oooohhh....i think im gonna like this thread. maybe midicholorians react violently against dark side usage? but then dooku's not affected.
hmm....
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:41 PM |
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TheElectricFox
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Yeah i mentioned the same Idea of "you look like the way you feel inside" in a recent research paper for Philosophy. The Philosopher Descartes had the same general idea about human thought 400 years prior to Star Wars.
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:48 PM |
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DarthLithic
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George has long used old text, and old thought for the basis of the SW stories. I find this thought interesting. kinda like in Excorcist, how the little girl is changed physically by the evil power within her. kinda the same thought
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Mar 16th, 2005 11:51 PM |
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ArthasKnight
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Ah, a new thread that doesn't suck!
I never likd the idea of midichlorians myself, I thought they killed the relogious aspect of the Force by giving it a biological explanation. Kinda like the theory of evolution killing the whole "God created the world and human beings" kinda thing. But I digress...
This sounds intriguing, the fact that the midichlorians respond to a person turning toward the dark side. If you have anything more to say on this, southtownbluz, I'd like to hear it.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:03 AM |
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Gannon
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anakin didnt look pale to me.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:22 AM |
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smoker4
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I thought he looked pale in the obi duel bits of the trailer
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:24 AM |
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XX Emperor XX
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Awesome theory...As we know the there are two forces, the light side and the dark side. Perhaps like u suggested southtownbluz when you tap into the dark side of the force your body does in fact go under some physical changes because of the fact you are tapping into a power thats so great your body transforms and thus considered "unnatural" by the jedi. Remember what Palps says in the trailer "learn to know the dark side of the force and you shall achieve a power greater than any Jedi" Maybe the dark side just gives you such immense power that your body has trouble controlling it, and makes the dark side stronger, but b/c of the fact the light side of the force just has the "will of the force" on its side it allows it to prevail over the dark side and why Yoda told luke the dark side isn't stronger.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:25 AM |
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xeous
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Right, Jedi feel the will of the force and carry out what it wants.
Sith manipulate the force to do what they want.
Interesting theory, BTW.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:29 AM |
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notDeadYet!
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(In Obi-Wan voice) Very Interesting! 
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:30 AM |
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southtownbluz
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Additionally, whether biological augmentation or careful psychic meditation, the distortion of the physical body can be proportionate to the strength of the user.....or perhaps, the midichlorian count. Anakin was a newbie, clearly powerful, but not trained adeptly enough to be as disfigured the Emperor. This would ring true for both Count Dooku and Maul. Both were apprentices, mind you. So I would deduce that time brings a greater disfigurement as well as a more in depth understanding of its nature.
Probably why Dooku can use force lightning. Longer time to train on the Dark Side, 10+ years to be exact. 
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:37 AM |
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Cascador
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Actually, I don't believe there are two forces...there is just the Force. They name it the dark side of the Force because it's the way you dissobey the will of the Force and use the Force on an unnatural way. You use the Force to have powers which the Force did not intend to create. The way it changes your physical state depends how deep you tap in the dark side of the Force and how strong you are in te Force in general. Dooku was kinda neutral cause he still considered himself a Jedi altho he used the dark side but he did not have the hatred, the anger to transform. Anakin did have hatred and anger and he used the dark side so much that his eyes and skin changed. That is why Dooku didn't change. He was more political and just didn't agree with the Jedi and wanted to destroy them not out of hatred but political reasons. Anakin wanted to destroy them out of hate, so he tapped deeper in the dark side than Dooku did
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:46 AM |
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southtownbluz
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How powerful Anakin must have been to be changed in such a short amount of time!
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:49 AM |
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XX Emperor XX
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Im not disagreeing that the dark side can transform you physically over a period of time, but hasn't been said that the emperor becomes disfigured at the hands of windu? and not by tapping into the dark side
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:50 AM |
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Cascador
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he becomes more misfigured, he was already misfigured.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:51 AM |
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southtownbluz
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I don't buy into the whole Mace Windu disfigured Palpy. Sounds cheesy. I think that the shock to himself snapped him out of his ability to control his body at a molecular (or medichlorianic) level.
Think about it: The Dark Side would have to be a power that taps into the very substance of the midichlorians. A Sith might, with enough power, be able to control his own genetic structure, to a small degree. Hiding the hideous aftereffects (namely dermal appearance) of the Dark Side.
Not unlike small-scale shapeshifting. SMALL SCALE. I'm not saying he could assume the appearance of Padme. Just clean up the appearance a little.
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Mar 17th, 2005 12:55 AM |
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Cascador
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you saw yourself at ep VI, that he almost looked like a lizard. That's because he was now emperor and their was no purpose to hide his true appearance. The Dark Side of the Force changes your appearance, simply like palpatine says...It's unnatural, which can't be healthy.
It's like drugs.
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Mar 17th, 2005 01:04 AM |
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XX Emperor XX
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Maybe the whole dark side changing your appreance is true like said before only Sidious is greatly disformed because he's been tapping into the dark side for so long, and maybe he can hide his appreance, but after the fight with Windu, Windu conflicts damage on his face preventing Palps from ever hiding his true identity
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