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The j0keR
RIP Albert
Registered: Jul 2004
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Overhyping of mechanical Vader
Now that all the promotional material is beginning to surface am I the only who thinks using the OT Vader to sell this movie is the wrong way to do it. I know the entire PT leads to the creation of Vader, but I believe from everything we have seen and heard so far that the face of this movie should be Hayden's Anakin/Vader. From what I have seen he looks basically what the one of the greatest villians in movie history would have looked like if we could have seen him. If not him alone than the combo of Obi and Ani should be the main focus.
Even though I will loooooooovvvvveeeee this movie, I still want it to do well and reach a level none of the movies have hit. What are people who are not in the know like us gonna think when they see Vader stand around for five minutes and say a few lines.
Im not sure how this thread will be recieved, but if its 1:30 in the morning here so if nobody likes it will probably go in peace. But I would like to here some other peoples opinion on this matter.
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tlbauerle
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I agree...and have said the same thing many times...
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:33 AM |
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BAILY
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Canada
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I personally dont care to see too much Mech Vader.... and I am glad he isnt in it too much... but enough with the over hyping... jeez the public is gonna be pissed to see that he isnt in it as much as is suggested
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:41 AM |
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The j0keR
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EXACTLY
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:45 AM |
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Phucked Up
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I don't think they'll mind, the movie unto itself will redeem for the fact we won't see Vader that much.
Hayden looks absolutely evil, he IS Darth Vader.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:45 AM |
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Envious Eyes
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Hayden plays Anakin very well... but until I see the movie, I'm not sure how well he plays Darth Vader.
But anyways, "Episode III" is going to be amazing. I'm also pretty excited to see "War of the Worlds."
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:50 AM |
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kimmeh
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Yeah I think alot of folks are gonna be mad when they come out of the theatre & have seen only a few minutres of Vader since he is on EVERY single piece of merchandise...
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:53 AM |
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Darth_Nefarus
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Mech Vader is my favorite character and the main reason I love Star Wars.
However, like Lucas said, this is about what happened to Anakin that cost him everything and I think it's awesome the way it is being done.
However, as most agree, we could see at least one or two Jedi being massacred by the weezing monster.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 08:19 AM |
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mephistodesigns
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I love the mech vader, but damn Anakin looks bad with his hood up and that look on his face! I would like to see a lot more of that in the promo material!
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Mar 22nd, 2005 08:30 AM |
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Now see I think in a way this could be worked to introduce people to the OT if they havent seen it. And there's plenty of Vader in the OT.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 03:43 PM |
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The j0keR
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Yeah I think anyone who has only seen the new movies(if they exist) will see the creation of Vader and be like what the hell, I want to see the rest of the movies to see this guy.
But for people who liked the originals but havent cared for the new ones will see all the promos and hey Darth Vader is in this one, and even though the movie will be great those kinds of people will be disappointed.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 03:52 PM |
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Really? This must be some kind of kid thing. I dont get it myself. The entire saga is the story of Anakin Skywalker and his redemption, not how Darth Vader wiped out the galaxy.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 03:54 PM |
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The j0keR
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This is not how I view the saga, it is just how I think average movie fans will respond if they are going by the promos which heavly feature Vader(just like the new poster).
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Mar 22nd, 2005 03:59 PM |
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tachie5
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I agree with JP. This is how Anakin became Vader and not how Vader destroyed the Jedi. However, I would have been happy with that scenario had Lucas chosen to go at it from that standpoint
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Mar 22nd, 2005 04:34 PM |
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kimmeh
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Yeah the story is about Anakin & his downfall, but thats not whats being merchandised. EVERYTHING from Cheezits to poptarts have mech Vader on it. I just think alot of non hardcore fans are gonna be upset at his lack of screentime..
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Mar 22nd, 2005 05:15 PM |
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DARTH STEVIOUS
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I think vader is in it a little more than what we all think as the figure comes with a light saber attack and most promo pics are with vader holding his light saber which sugests to me that there will be a little fighting. It may well be vader that sends Yoda running we will just have to wait and see but this is my veiw. I am also glad that lucas is not focusing on darth killing the jedi as what star wars needs is better acting and story telling and i think they will get this with ROTS as lucas says its like Titanic in space.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 05:21 PM |
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kimmeh
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Registered: Nov 2004
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I'd like to see that but I really doubt that we will see Vader weilding a saber at all..
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Mar 22nd, 2005 05:24 PM |
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SithSpy
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Registered: Dec 2004
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I think too much weight is being put on the quote from lucas about it being like titanic in space, he meant only that we know whats gonna happen at the end allready but wanna know how the characters got there, nothing to do with the acting or anything, but yeah they are using mech. vader to sell all the merch. and it will throw some people off, like when they show a character in the one sheet of the movie or their name in the marquee and then they die in the first 5 min. drew barrymore in scream anyone? so some are bound to be disappointed by the lack especially when the main image associated with the movie thus far is that black helmet
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Mar 22nd, 2005 07:22 PM |
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Darth Subjekt
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Look, all it is, is good marketing. When you hear the words "Star Wars" you most likely think "darth Vader". I know i do and most others do as well. So it stands to reason if youre gonna release a movie with that character, might as well put him out there. I mean this is comin from the same man who never once had the word "ewok" spoken in ROTJ, yet everyone knows what an Ewok is. Once he gets you in the theater, he doesnt care if youre disappointed. He's aid multiple times he's making this movie for HIM, not us or the critics. So its just strong marketing.
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Mar 22nd, 2005 08:05 PM |
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J.M FcThumbs-Up
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The whole damn issue is not what I'm concerned about.
But yeah I agree with the others, this is not the "MECHVADER DESTROYING THE JEDI-movie", it's about the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker a.k.a Darth Vader(non-mech). The OT is about the return of the Jedi=>Luke and Anakin(mech)!
About that Mech-Vader screentime; I believe it's not much, as we can expect 5 minutes of Mech-Vader.
What I think is that it doesn't actually have to be 5 minutes at once.
The thing is we will see Mech-Vader rise, we will see him on the bridge of a StarDestroyer and we will hear him spit a few words, all intercut ofcourse.
So what I believe(well...I hope), is that GL still has something special planned which we all don't know about.
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