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Yoda was an idiot in the PT.
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Generic Hero
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Yoda was an idiot in the PT.

Really.

The whole "Mourn them do not, miss them do not" speech was rather nonsense.

Battle of Kashyyyk? Horrible! Why meet the enemy on the shore when you have thos big ass trees behind you?

And pretty much anything he does/says in TPM sucked.

What happened to good old OT Yoder?

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PT Yoda rockz cause he actually fights. I thought his little speeches were kind of cool actually


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In the OT he was a semi-senile muppet with the wisdom of a millenium old master.

In the PT he was a dancing Kermit look-alike who flipped back and forth from muppet to CGI, and spouted words that contradicted Anakin's views hence helping in his fall.

OT Yoda kicked PT Yoda's ass, movie-wise.


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Yoda isnt all the wise guy we thought he was, he was teaching the jedi the wrong way and it was Qui-Gon who knew more about the force, but then again Qui-Gon Lost to Darth Maul in TPM, but that might have been on purpose, he thought oh ill sack it all in now, ive had enough of all this coruption and crap thats happening


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Obi-Wan proves once again to be the best. Overall best fighter, overall most wise, overall kindest, overall smartest. All hail Kenobi the God lol.

Yoda in the PT was better than in the OT in my opinion but he definitely screwed up big time in his teachings.


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OT Kenobi > OT Yoda > PT Kenobi >>>> PT Yoda

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
OT Kenobi > OT Yoda > PT Kenobi >>>> PT Yoda
Fla shnizzle.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Revolver Ocelot
OT Kenobi > OT Yoda > PT Kenobi >>>> PT Yoda


More Like Yoda any form>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OT Kenobi and PT Kenobi

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I liked PT Yoda much better. He had more facial expression and didn't look as stiff. OT Yoda is still really good though, hell, they both are. But there's nothing wrong with the PT Yoda. Digital technology is on the rise in the film industry. Might as well do yourselves a favor and get used to it.


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Nothing's wrong with his computer animation, but he was an idiot in the PT.

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The OT puppet was tooo cute!!!! I'm really in love with that puppet. Still, there was nothing wrong with the new one animation-wise, but I agree that George disgraced him with his conduct. I actually thought the "mourn them not" speech was one of the best speeches in the PT, it reminds me of certain great philosophers I know so well, but the whole idea of making him fight with a lightsaber, even though I was one of the first one to jump off my seat in the cinema when the Yoda-Dooku duel started, just doesn't seem right to me anymore, just like I don't think it was right for Sidious. I always thought of these characters (especially Yoda) as so powerful that they wouldn't need to use a lightsaber. Yoda was even more important to me because that scene where he tells Luke he doesn't need his weapons in TESB is fundamental, it symbolises the superiority of self-consciousness, reason and spirituality over violence and therefore the use of weapons. Lightsaber-fighting Yoda kind of ruined that for me.


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Yoda and Sidious are jedi, one of the easiest/fastest ways to solve problems are throguh hand to hand combat.

I always like to think that Yoda evolved, saw the error in the old jedi ways, and passed a revised version on to Luke. It makes his character much more dynamic.


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Kashyyk battle was an allegorial reference to the Operation Overlord. In this case, the evil naz... ehm. Republic was able to hold back the landfall.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by aj_vader
Yoda isnt all the wise guy we thought he was, he was teaching the jedi the wrong way and it was Qui-Gon who knew more about the force, but then again Qui-Gon Lost to Darth Maul in TPM, but that might have been on purpose, he thought oh ill sack it all in now, ive had enough of all this coruption and crap thats happening


how was it wrong? it had worked for millennia (sp?), yes anakin failed but he wasn't devoted to being a jedi, he wanted to have his cake and eat it...


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Umm...THe jedi becomming an organization so saturated with power and overconfidence that they cant even see whats going on around them. THEY WENT TO WAR! How can you have teachings if you dont follow them...

AND WHO MADE THES LINES OF TEXT SO LONG!


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Umm...THe jedi becomming an organization so saturated with power and overconfidence that they cant even see whats going on around them. THEY WENT TO WAR! How can you have teachings if you dont follow them...

AND WHO MADE THES LINES OF TEXT SO LONG!


most jedi did, yes they were overconfident in their abilities, but i don't believe the council set that trend...

i don't believe that yoda was responsible for ani turning for one second...


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Originally posted by Eleonora
The OT puppet was tooo cute!!!! I'm really in love with that puppet. Still, there was nothing wrong with the new one animation-wise, but I agree that George disgraced him with his conduct. I actually thought the "mourn them not" speech was one of the best speeches in the PT, it reminds me of certain great philosophers I know so well, but the whole idea of making him fight with a lightsaber, even though I was one of the first one to jump off my seat in the cinema when the Yoda-Dooku duel started, just doesn't seem right to me anymore, just like I don't think it was right for Sidious. I always thought of these characters (especially Yoda) as so powerful that they wouldn't need to use a lightsaber. Yoda was even more important to me because that scene where he tells Luke he doesn't need his weapons in TESB is fundamental, it symbolises the superiority of self-consciousness, reason and spirituality over violence and therefore the use of weapons. Lightsaber-fighting Yoda kind of ruined that for me.


I agree, I've said similar things before.


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Oh and Hokage Yoda, you ought to be shot for screwing up the page with that stupid arrow. mad

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Originally posted by pr1983
most jedi did, yes they were overconfident in their abilities, but i don't believe the council set that trend...

i don't believe that yoda was responsible for ani turning for one second...


They even said it in Aotc. Obi-wan walked up to Mace and Yoda and told them he was worried abot Anakin's ego, then Yoda and mace told him that unfortuanantly the massive ego thing was gettiing quite common in the younger Jedi generations.


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