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In Ep. III, what did Anakin mean when he screamed "You were with him!", at Padme?
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FistOfThe North
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In Ep. III, what did Anakin mean when he screamed "You were with him!", at Padme?

Did he think she was cheating on him or was he just mad that she was with him in order to stop him.


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i dunno about cheating, i mean, who starts cheating with a very very pregnant woman?

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She went to anakin to see if all obi wan told her was true which obviously was and when he obi wan in a pose on the ramp he presumed that she had brought him here to kill him, he even said that.


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Aye, He thought Padme was there to help Obi-Wan kill him yes


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Hmmm well I think he meant that he thought Obi-Wan and Padme were.... well.... yeah

In the Obsession comics while Obi-Wan and Anakin are sparring, Obi-Wan says to Anakin, "Your mind is still on Naboo". Then they both say, "And you're still thinking about her" or something like that.

Also, this might have been from either a website or a book, but Palpatine asked Anakin if he could be certain about Padme's loyalty to him


Anakin may have believed the two were working against him, as he shouted, "LIAR! You were with him! You brought him here, to kill me!" That was after he saw Obi-Wan at the top of the ramp of course, so those two sentances might have been linked or they might not have


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Great thread. I think this whole Anakin-jealousy thing is one thing that Lucas excised out of ROTS. I just wonder why he took the whole Padme-Obi-Wan thing out of the movie?

It must not have played well in rehearsal. I mean it was a minor thread in the book, Palpatine suggests the affair to Anakin, Anakin has a dream of Obi-Wan & Padme when he's sitting on the couch, because Obi-Wan had come by to talk to Padme. Then some more jealousy talk on the Mustafar platform.

I think the affair idea just maybe wasn't believeable enough for them to keep it in the movie dialogue. Maybe it just was too much. And it was left as another minor piece of the puzzle of Anakin's fall.

It would be nice to see this dialogue in the super-dooper dvd set.

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FistOfThe North
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There was also what seemed a hint of jelousy in Anakin's words when he suspsiosly said "Obi Wan was here, wasn't he?" (in her apartment)


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"If you aren't with me, then you will be my enemy!"

Is this some jealousy too?

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"If you aren't with me, then you will be my enemy!"

Is this some jealousy too?


lo no. He was talking to Obi Wan. If anything he was jealous that Obi Wan cared more about the Force than he cared about Anakin, perhaps?


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I think he meant "you were plotting against me all this time, whereas I suspected only Obi-Wan was, since he is jealous of me". However, I still think he must have suspected adultery at certain points in the story , I remember a very well written part in the ROTS novel when, during his first reunion with Padme after months, he notices her mind is elsewhere and he asks if there's someone else in her life. Moreover, I don't think he suspected Obi-Wan as a plausible lover, it was more a suspicion related to Obi-Wan's supposed jealousy.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Council#13
In the Obsession comics while Obi-Wan and Anakin are sparring, Obi-Wan says to Anakin, "Your mind is still on Naboo". Then they both say, "And you're still thinking about her" or something like that.



Obi Wan was referring to Anakin thinking about Padme and Anakin was referring to Obi Wan thinking about how Asajj Ventress was sill alive. No affair action involved.


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chinabing
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As for the poll, actually I think Anakin could mean both meanings, because he's so spittin' mad, he'd just say about anything.

I remember in the final OT Special Editions VHS tapes with the "extra footage seen nowhere else" Lucas specifically mentioned jealousy in a host of sins Anakin must wrestle with.

But I didn't think in the ROTS movie there was much jealousy displayed by Anakin.

Now I remember there were rumors in 2003-04 that Anakin was jealous and fell to the dark side... because it was rumored that Padme and Bail were having an affair. But maybe it was a red herring to throw off the spoilers.

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In the screenplay there is a scene where Palpatine manipulates Anakin into believing that Padme is falling in love with Obi-Wan... or vice versa... I forget.


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I think Palps portrayed it as mutual. stick out tongue


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anakin (vader my master) told me that he caught ob1 and padme in bed naked he said he wished he could kill ob1 and so he did in episode 4


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orsm dood


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Obi Wan was referring to Anakin thinking about Padme and Anakin was referring to Obi Wan thinking about how Asajj Ventress was sill alive. No affair action involved.


confused Are you sure?


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i voted the other one as a joke hahahahah *waits for laughter, but only hears coughs and crickets, but out of nowhere some idiot starts laughing but we realize he's watching bootlegged chappelles show*


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Anakin thought Padme brought Kenobi to kill him. As for Palpatine questioning Anakin's thoughts on Padme's loyalty, that was not in regards to their relationship, more their political views.


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"Your with him! you bought him here to kill me."

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