Do the films undermine the power of the force users?
Does anyone think that the movies make the force users [sith/jedi] look pretty weak. I can understand that due to lack of tech etc. the various feats of telekinesis in the OT were not very spectacular or strong.
But it seems to me that even in the PT they are still pretty weak. I mean look at the abilities of X-men in film - the power of Dr. Grey or Phoenix. Jedi powers can't even compare to many psionics in film today. How strong are the force users supposed to be really? I heard from somewhere that Exar Kun could move stars or something from another thread. I can't imagine Yoda from the films doing that!
Darth Vader can lift people off the ground and choke them from distance
Yoda can lift ships out of swamps can force push sith lords, stop force lightning
Palpatine can Fire lightning powerfully out of both hands
Count Dooku can jump very high
Obi-Wan with the mind trick
X-Men is a bit too far fetched when you look at it like that, because the Force in Star Wars is such a mystical special thing and the powers aren't too unrealistic, X men characters are mental, they have soo many powers, personally i just think am watching a Farfetched Cartoon when i watch the X Men Movies
Registered: Jun 2006
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^^Those powers are pretty weak.
Better examples I think would be, they can fall or jump hundreds of feet without getting injured afterwards. Yoda can absorb lightning and redirect it back to its user. They can get shot in vital body parts without dying immediately, ex. it took 3 or 4 shots for Jango to kill coleman trebor.
but the force is used on a much greater scale in the EU.
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JP is fully right. The comics turn the Force into a means of performing magical feats that you'd see in an X-Men comic book. It loses its mystical feeling.
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Jedi Academy on Yavin IV
Yeah. I'm fine with a lot of EU, but when EU turns The Force into some twisted cross of Superman and Jean Grey, it kinda ticks me off. Case in point being when Palpatine's clone was able to destroy a fleet of warships and throw suns with the Force. The Force shouldn't be able to do that, nor should it's users. That's just farfetched.
Comparing that to a comic book style of powers is an analogy I haven't seen before, but I definitely see how it fits.
Re: Do the films undermine the power of the force users?
Exar and Ragnos and Revan are all EU, blown ridiculously out of proportion simply to match or excel their predecssors. Everyone thought Revan was the bomb, then they created a guy who could literally eat the Force. It got foolish.
The movies were the first, the original, the patriarch of all that followed. All of EU is more of a marketing gimic rather than works of art, which the OT is considered by many to be... not so much the PT. The EU are like glorified comic books.
Which is exactly what X-Men is. Kids were the original intended market for those, and kids wanna see mutants that could blow up New York with a blink of the eye and a guy who could stop them by shooting a laser while blinking back. The X-Men target market desired and even demanded powers and abilities blown out of proportion. SW wasn't meant to be that far-fetched.
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Jul 2nd, 2006 02:09 PM
