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mikester
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Qui gon's Sacrfice

some of my friends at school said that Qui-Gon sacrficed himself so that he could force the council into training anakin. Any one agree?


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tell your friends at school that their theory is baseless and silly. quigon was the best suited to raise anakin, and was forced to place the burden on obiwan after being run through by maul. great lengths were taken by lucas to illustrate the fatherly quality of quigon, lack of in obiwan, as well as the complete lack of planning of his death during the duel. as far as a reason for sacrifice, there is none. quigon was defiant enough to demand that anakin be trained, and whether or not he died was of no concequence.

the true reason that anakin was to be trained was the revelation that the sith have returned. they had hoped that anakin would destroy the sith, and so they trained him. before, when they refused, they were not sure that the sith had returned.

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Yeah, Obi Wan was opposed to the training initially anyway. Qui Gon could have easily trained the little sucker himself without much trouble. How it turned out really wasn't what he planned.


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tell your friends at school that their theory is baseless and silly. quigon was the best suited to raise anakin, and was forced to place the burden on obiwan after being run through by maul. great lengths were taken by lucas to illustrate the fatherly quality of quigon, lack of in obiwan, as well as the complete lack of planning of his death during the duel. as far as a reason for sacrifice, there is none. quigon was defiant enough to demand that anakin be trained, and whether or not he died was of no concequence.

the true reason that anakin was to be trained was the revelation that the sith have returned. they had hoped that anakin would destroy the sith, and so they trained him. before, when they refused, they were not sure that the sith had returned.


That and the fact that Obi-Wan was going to train Anakin with our without the council's permission. He was going to do Qui-Gon's last request.


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Re: Qui gon's Sacrfice

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Originally posted by mikester
some of my friends at school said that Qui-Gon sacrficed himself so that he could force the council into training anakin. Any one agree?


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That theory has some substance if you think about it, but it's complete junk. Qui-Gon believed that Obi-Wan was ready for the trials, and would have argued endlessly with the Council on allowing Anakin to be his Padawan. The Council members would have seen the good in allowing such a powerful Force Sensitive into their Order, and especially after a confrontation with the Sith, the Jedi would not want to risk such a powerful being to join the Dark Side. Also, like ESB-1138 said, Qui-Gon would have trained Anakin regardless of whether or not the entire Council agreed.


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Re: Qui gon's Sacrfice

quote: (post)
Originally posted by mikester
some of my friends at school said that Qui-Gon sacrficed himself so that he could force the council into training anakin. Any one agree?


yep very stupid idea!
tell ur mates that they are silly as heck.
Qui Gon wouldnt of sacrificed himself cos then he couldnt train anakin.

oh and just before Qui Gon died i thought it was cool that Obi Wan knew it was gonna happen.

anyway yeah, stupid idea!

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yep very stupid idea!
tell ur mates that they are silly

anyway yeah, stupid idea!


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no need to slam the kid so hard. on a forum where people argue that dialogue means nothing, the force is a giant scale, and george lucas is incorrect about his own plot summaries, this is hardly a ridiculous idea, however wrong it is.

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I dont see where anyone was slamming him. I think most of us basically quoted the thread author when we said "stupid idea" huh

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Yup. We're not making fun of him. Just his friend's ideas. smile


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Yup. We're not making fun of him. Just his friend's ideas. smile


yepp.... smile


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well.....i am evil face

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He was bested at saber combat, nothing more


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Probably due to his age and the restriction of the space of the area smile


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by PVS
well.....i am evil face



erm


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oh no, not...."erm" !!!!!!!

*runs away*

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quote: (post)
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oh no, not...."erm" !!!!!!!

*runs away*


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quote: (post)
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Probably due to his age and the restriction of the space of the area smile



Or just the fact that Maul was plain better.


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quote: (post)
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oh no, not...."erm" !!!!!!!

*runs away*


haha lol!


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