Okay, I was looking at Wookieepedia and without going back there for another hour can we agree that Sidious used his midichlorian knowledge learned in part from Plagueis to form Anakin in Shmi's womb?
I wonder why Shmi Skywalker, but she was sooooo gentle and caring and isolated, that Anakin could develop out of the sight of pretty much everyone and with her personality in him, he could never turn on his "father" (unless to save his son out of caring, as Shmi would) and so Sidious could live on and on with his right hand badass. Maybe there was some grand plan for getting him to lose it over keeping his loved ones, but that could've been just as it happened especially with Padme. Maybe that part was from Sidious unintentionally, hating death and being greedy for power.
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I was going to put this in the "Hayden kills these films" thread but that was a bit old and that seems to be one topic here. If it's OT I can bump the old one.
Hayden... I don't think he was incredible but I don't know if Anakin was supposed to NOT be stiff and awkward, or he would be in real life. First he's a slave, that's damaging enough, and he is gifted with special powers, but he doesn't know what he really is. Then he has his great success in Ep 1 and is to become a Jedi (eventually), but he has to leave his mom and shut down his feelings to train.
So he's eventually a teen with arrogance and all the power to back it up (somewhat, Dooku schools him but he still is strong), filled with emotions and then told to discard them. He is "without peer" as Anakin could be the source for. There isn't really someone for him to casually hang out with and he has no parents. Obi-Wan is a father/older bro figure but also in a more proper, formal master/teacher sense.
Padme is his true companion, friend (though he's friendly to others and has C3PO) and his true love. When she comes in he asks her if she's an angel. Intense! She's hot but he is starved for someone to bond with and she is friendly so they connect. The Jedi are cordial and care but you know they aren't exactly going to get that connected, they keep their distance.
And beyond that you know Sidious is messing with his head.
Luke is also confused and powerful but he has a loving aunt and uncle and a somewhat normal upbringing and not the rigid training. He's looser and better-adjusted.
So as much as we like glass-smooth, expert performances such as Alec Guinness, et al for Anakin he should be awkward and whiney, IMO. Did Hayden deliver, I think so.
Anakin was supposed to be a good kid, not "Oh, I hate this guy and he'll be Vader! I love to hate him and he's portraying it really well!" He's not supposed to be satisfyingly evil like Ian Mac. If they redid it with either a good or bad Anakin in Ep 1, then made him really sinister in 2 and 3 hiring the top young actor in Hollywood (Gordon-Levitt, Garcia Bernal but younger) with acclaimed performances I still don't think it would've been perfect.
Ha, okay. It just happened at exactly the time Palpatine would be looking to make a new apprentice/commander. Sure.
So as Palp is figuring this stuff out and while Maul was 10/10 on cool and was also powerful, he wasn't the ultimate Sith warrior an couldn't beat his master, Palpatine thinks "Gee, it would be nice if I could find a new apprentice that would be hate-filled and could overtake me, but chooses not to? Well I'll work on this midichlorian stuff but just on me."
Well if he lives forever eventually there'll be a fatherless birth!
Um EWWW....but I do agree on your second point, the problem wasnt with the actor but with the director/writer of some of THE most hideous lines in the saga.
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