Registered: Nov 2004
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What did you dislike about the Prequel Trilogy?
I searched for a thread of that kind and didn't find any, though, admittedly, I wasn't exactly sure what to look for.
Anyways, I rewatched the PT recently and remember better what I disliked about them. I don't think they are horrible movies, they are okay, but they have this horrible aftertaste that I couldn't quite pinpoint, so I thought I'll let you guys help me. Just tell about what specific scenes, what dialouge, what ideas, what actions you didn't like and for what reasons. May it be something small and insignificant, or even something major. I'll start with a few things.
I really disliked the portrayal of Boba Fett as a child. He seemed extremely annoying and some of his dialouge just didn't fit with how the situation played out.
I also disliked a lot of Anakin's behaviour and dialouge with Padme. He was extremely whiny and her reactions were ridiculous. Just didn't draw me in at all.
R2s ridiculous upgrades that he magically seemed to have lost 20 years later is another thing, which just pissed me off.
Padme dying of a broken heart...
Anakin's extremely easy fall to the dark side, which was again pretty idiotic.
The whole Pod Racing scene. Actually, all scenes where children get lame one liners while manouvering about.
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: The United American Empire
I agree on Boba, sorry Daniel Logan...your voice is funny...as well as your lines.
Jake Llyod. (that's all I will say on him)
Jar Jar should have been toned down just a little, maybe with a more serious voice.
I wish Attack of the Clones began showing the bad guys and Count gearing up and such. So we don't randomly see him half way throughout the movie and think WTF is he doing in here?
Better dialogue between Anakin and Padme.
Qui-Gon should have been a ghost in II and III. So his character would be like Ben Kenobi's in the OT.
I wish the PT wasn't bashed as much as it is...really all of the complaints are minor, they don't add up for me and I still love them as much as the OT. As time goes by people will begin to not complain as much.
Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Chelmsford, Essex, UK
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I'm one of those who defend the PT quite strongly, but of course I have complaints. These are two fold:
1. Poor conceptual explanation. GL has lots of good and interesting ideas about the concept of Balance, the Living vs. Cosmic Force, the Prophecy, the problem of attachment and how love casn be a BAD thing, and even the midichlorians... and then promptly doesn't bother explaining any of them on-screen so that you have to check his interviews to know what he was talking about and meanwhile we are left with an understandable amount of fans who therefore read all these things the wrong way, from the "Doesn't balance mean good and evil are the same strength?" crowd to the "He's changed the Force into just a bunch of bacteria!" crowd, neither of which are at all true but you can see why people think it.
2. Too much plot. The original films did well on a three 'planet' formula- Tatooine/DeathStar/Yavin, Hoth/Dagobah/Bespin and Tatooine/Endor/Death Star, with maybe the odd small distraction like the asteroid field or Dagobah re-visit.
TPM immediately ran into some problems by going in a circle- Naboo/Tatooine/Coruscant/Naboo again. The thing that struck me at the time is how basically irrelevant Tatooine was to the wider plot. Its only purpose was to introduce Anakin and I an not sure he HAD to come from there, warching the original films. So anyway, TPM felt a little bit flabby.
AOTC is then the worst offender by far, with Coruscant (given some action at last, good start), Naboo AND Kamino, then Tatooine again, AND then Geonosis. You are in trouble already with five planets all trying to get a full bite of the story; ESB showed that two plotlines could be done but not with this kind of attempt at emotional detail. Just about everyone agrees the Naboo scenes were a total waste of time (and a look at the cut scenes shows that GL already junked a load of them out the window, so the original plan had them even longer). AOTC really is the film that feels you are having to rush at a silly speed through things as there is just too much, and meanwhile you beg to be able to get back to Obi-Wan's interesting plotline rather than watching Anakin force-feed Padme with crap cgi fruit slices.
Thank God they blew a load of crap up at the end, even though Mace and the Jedi seem to turn up about 30 minutes ahead of their massive army simply so they could get a lot of Jedi killed and be dramatically rescued. Oh well.
Then Revenge of the Sith... which actually I think does rather well, with only Kashyyk being literally surplus to requirements and they didn't waste too much time there. So actually ROTS gets a big pass from me.
However, none of the PT are actively broken like ROTJ was, so they are still better than that.
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Last edited by Ushgarak on Sep 7th, 2008 at 10:28 AM
AOTC is my biggest disappointment really. I thought TPM fairly boring at first with all the taxation and senate stuff. Lucas really overestimated how interesting that was. But AOTC has basically no crucial plotline that drives the story of the Skywalker-family forward.
One of the things I always liked about AOTC was the wonderful plot Palpy had for taking over the universe. But it's left hanging out tehre and I doubt many people saw it (i.e. through Dooku Palpy gets all the major ecocnimical factions together - banking clan, techno union, trade federation etc - so when the clones do come into action they will destroy much of the universe's economical power thus leaving the way wide open to Palpy... genius). If Lucas had ditched the Naboo scenes, and made OB1's detective story into a proper detetctive story from Kamino dart, to Geonosis to finding out the major plot) than something wmight have happened in AOTC. Other than that it's all just shooting, fighting and what have ya. THe only two elements we get is: Clones are being made and angry Anakin&Padme fall in love... well, that's not much for a film of almost 2,5 hours.
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: The United American Empire
Good posts guys.
I also forgot to mention the whole syphadias thing. Revenge of the Sith NEVER explained that. I am sure the EU has...but if it was in a movie, I wish it would have been more clear.
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: The United American Empire
LOL I totally agree with you. My friend told me when he was watching ROTS he paused the movie right after Anakin delivered that line because he was sort of shocked in a way...it really makes no sense.
Padme dying because she lost the will to live in ep.3 was just aloada bull...I mean I know we're meant to believe that Ani and Padme are deeply in love but her dying because she lost the will to live because Ani broke her heart is just...stupid.
Sep 6th, 2008 09:12 PM
FER TEA!!
