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Man of Christ
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obi wans "soresu" in Aotc

why do so many sources indicate that obi wan was using soresu against dooku in episode 2 when he clearly wasnt using soresu but rather a mixture of soresu and ataro. (he apparently hadnt shaken off his first 25 years of ataro)

i have some reasons to be live he wasnt using soresu

1) he charged at dooku which is an offensive move which isnt consistent with soresu's passive philosophy
2) he had initially some wide and broad swings of the sword which are ataro like
3) he didnt get defensive until dooku drove him back
4) he didnt give dooku any ground like he gave anakin in the later episode but tries to outmuscle him.

all these facts lead me to belive he hadnt fully switched out of ataro into soresu but was in a transitory period and didnt become a full soresu master movie wise until rots


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He wasn't a Soresu master until RotS. It was after Qui-Gon's death that Obi-Wan decided to switch to Soresu, so yeah.


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*sigh*


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You guys are kidding right?

Hahaha.

The makers don't care about fighting styles like that. Ask Nic, he would have no idea.


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No one even knows what these fighting styles are.


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No one even knows what these fighting styles are.


Hahaha.

Even some of the EU authors don't. Fact.


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Trying to make sense out of a chosen swing or posture with EU established moves and stances - knowing the source is what is left after rehearsal after rehearsal, changes to make it more dramatic or cinematic, would drive someone crazy.


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wtf r u guys trying say?..........that obi-wan wasnt a master of defensive style...???? hmm I squish u all like grape cause you standing in middle of road!...LOL


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Sure Ob1 was a master in a defensive style... but what WAS the style? And how do the others work?


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Sure Ob1 was a master in a defensive style... but what WAS the style? And how do the others work?


There are no classified styles. (Don't tell the EU fans.)


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No one even knows what these fighting styles are.


The REAL fans do. The ones who do their research.

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There are no classified styles. (Don't tell the EU fans.)


Yes there are. What do you think the Jedi do when they practise with lightsabres? Plus, classified styles make it much more interesting.

Read the novels.

And yes, by AotC, Kenobi was still using some Ataru (old habits die hard after all). It wasn't until Ep 3 that he had fully mastered soresu.

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There are no classified styles. (Don't tell the EU fans.)

Too bad they are featured in all 3 PT novels so they are canon even in here.

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Too bad they are featured in all 3 PT novels so they are canon even in here.


Nope. Movies are canon. I seriously doubt George Lucas even knows about the styles. Nick Gillard would never bother having the actors model some sort of style that isn't unique to each actor. There is no reason for it.

Ataru and Soresu do not really exist. If Star Wars was real, ask Obi-Wan then wait for the confused look.


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THe books talk about them, but itīs not like one can study the styles or anything. And therefore itīs a bit BS discussing which styles win over wich styles.


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well in the way I see it mace style won over darth dorkazz..lol..hehe ..bet I pizzed someone off..lol


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As always. laughing out loud


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lol. now somebody wants to debate with you.


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